good stuff everyone. I have started building a new OBSD machine for QEMU / reactOS or win VM. (hence the other matrox posts :-)) I have multiple MS action pack subscriptions as well as an MSDN universal license so getting valid software is not a problem. I have spent the last decade porting stuff over from unix to windows in a never ending fight to get my OS to treat me like an adult and recently I threw in the towel. Windows *could* do anything *nix could do if MS would stop intentionally breaking stuff so my grandma can play scrabble on AOL with one less virus. I gave up on windows even though MS/RIAA were nice enough to give me temporary permission to play my own media on the copy of vista I lease.