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Old 26th May 2011
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cyphertite is a high-security scalable solution for online backups. cyphertite features include:
  • client-based system
  • IPv6 support
  • compresses and encrypts all data before transmission
  • deduplicates using fixed-size pieces of data called "chunks"
  • all network traffic is encrypted using openssl certificates and keys
  • realm deduplication i.e. only backs up a file once if it is on N computers that share the same user account
  • incremental backups for shorter backup window and smaller metadata files
  • local cache database of chunks already sent to server avoids unnecessary encryption and network traffic
  • pay according to storage space used, not per client machine
  • demonstrable privacy of client data with open source client

The project needs more testers.

https://www.cyphertite.com/

How to install cyphertite
How to configure cyphertite

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FREE TRIAL? Thanks, I would rather get Bacula
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While advertisements aren't generally a good idea on this forum, this product/project appears to be by (..at least indirectly) Macro Peereboom.

He wrote OpenBSD's softraid(4) framework, bioctl(8), and he has a few other projects like the xxxterm browser.

However, I agree with vermaden at least in the sense that there are easier ways to backup.. and some 3rd party service isn't necessarily the best of them.

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Well, I do not wanted to be rude, but I would love to see 'cyphertite' changing their policy to something like VirtualBox at least, a functional core ready to use as You like, truly enterprice options are paid or require support.

The best case would be to have full source at permissive license and optional support if You need it.
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write down all your suggestions and I will note Marco, if you guys can not reach him; I can
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write down all your suggestions and I will note Marco, if you guys can not reach him; I can
First of all, as Cyphertite probably aspires to be something like IBM TSM or Symantec NetBackup, it should implement as many of their killer features as possible.

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compresses and encrypts all data before transmission
Something like differential backup from TSM would be nice (sending only changed blocks of modified files).

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deduplicates using fixed-size pieces of data called "chunks"
Deduplication is very nice feature.

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all network traffic is encrypted using openssl certificates and keys
Not all that critical for LAN, more for WAN, important for location <-> location backup over the net.

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realm deduplication i.e. only backs up a file once if it is on N computers that share the same user account
Also nice, but if deduplication is 'ON' then would the duplicated blocks wouldnt be deduped anyway?

Generally the creators of Cyphertite should get a copy of TSM server (available for download), check IBM Redbooks and other IBM TSM information and check what else they would need/implement.
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Notes delivered, well be back with comments if any.

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15:51 <marco> just a comment and obviously we didnt convey the message
15:52 <marco> the backup service is meant for practical paranoids
15:52 <me> well, write down so I 'd take it as is.
15:52 <me>
15:52 <me> thats it?
15:52 <marco> need some coffee first
15:52 <me> sure thing, I 'll be here.
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16:59 <me> so what am gonna say back to him?
16:59 <marco> Something like differential backup from TSM would be nice (sending only changed blocks of modified files).
16:59 <marco> it does that
17:00 <marco> // all network traffic is encrypted using openssl certificates and keys
17:00 <marco> Not all that critical for LAN, more for WAN, important for location <-> location backup over the net.
17:00 <marco> we dont support no encryption
17:00 <marco> for obvious reasons
17:00 <marco> // realm deduplication i.e. only backs up a file once if it is on N computers that share the same user account
17:00 <marco> Also nice, but if deduplication is 'ON' then would the duplicated blocks wouldnt be deduped anyway?
17:00 <marco> yes and no
17:00 <marco> we cant global dedup because of said security features
17:00 <marco> but realm we can
17:01 <marco> did i cover it all?
17:01 <me> well, let me check
17:02 <me> yub, all his comment is replied now.
17:02 <me> I will take that back to him as we speak.
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Nice, really nice, the only thing left is to have some basic core as open source for all usage patterns, like VirtualBox (I already whined about that earlier), but I understand if that do not happen, writing software costs ...

If 'they' have such functional core, then they only need to write needed clients for backup of various systems (VMware ESX/vSphere using VCB Proxy, Exchange, MS SQL, Oracle including RAC/DataGuard and other such systems in single and cluster variants).

Also creating a backup server in cluster mode is also essential for many enterprise environments, also support for various tape libraries I think.

Wish them good luck with their project.
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Nice, really nice, the only thing left is to have some basic core as open source for all usage patterns, like VirtualBox (I already whined about that earlier), but I understand if that do not happen, writing software costs ...
howdy vermaden!

we are working towards a self-contained version of the backend that can be run locally, so i believe we are heading towards the core functionality you speak of.

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If 'they' have such functional core, then they only need to write needed clients for backup of various systems (VMware ESX/vSphere using VCB Proxy, Exchange, MS SQL, Oracle including RAC/DataGuard and other such systems in single and cluster variants).
there's quite a bit of work involved in creating a proper port of cyphertite to windows. once that's out of the way we can handle most of what you describe above using VSS on windows systems and the corresponding snapshotting facilities on other OSes.

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Also creating a backup server in cluster mode is also essential for many enterprise environments, also support for various tape libraries I think.

Wish them good luck with their project.
VTL support is beyond the scope of what we're aiming at for the time being, but our backend that people are backing up to now is indeed clustered. thus the drive to have more people test the service.

interested to hear any further input you guys have.

cheers,
jake

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I wanted to expand on the chat with Marco a bit...

Cyphertite is not only for the "practical paranoids". Cyphertite is for anyone interested in a secure, efficient, and offsite backup solution. Cyphertite and our online backup service were designed with security as a top priority. The data is encrypted before it leaves your computer and we never see your passwords used for data encryption. That means we could never see your data even if we wanted to. What is stored on our servers amounts to meaningless bits without your password, and only you will ever see that password.

Let us know or post back if you would like any other features explained.

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Not sure what you're talking about, the client is open source vermaden.. the service they offer will eventually go pay, so the server-side is closed.
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That 'FREE TRIAL' sign on the page must have mislead me.
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I'm trying to compile Cyphertite on FreeBSD 8.2-Stable. If fails with "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lshrink"
Quickly googled but couldn't find anything.
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Yes I have followed that guide. I've got all the dependacies (won't let you start building without). I have then ran ./ct_install.sh as the guide says but it stops saying the error messege above.
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expect some *official* help soon
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I'm talking with "Mike N" on there live chat. I will post what was wrong if/when it's worked out.
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I had to build the libary first then cd back to the main dir then finish building. He said they will fix it.
Silly question and I've checked the manpage but how do I delete file from the server, I have tried "cyphertite -me "metadatafile.md" but it says "archive file requried".
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striaght ahead from the main developer

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