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Old 27th July 2008
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My new box is up and running. I used the VIA EPIA LN10000EG Mini-ITX Mainboard with 1GB of RAM and a 160GB 2.5" HDD. Installation was done using PXE Boot and the 4.3 'pxeboot' image. I did a full recompile for 4.3-stable on the box in just over 3 hours.

Here is the dmesg:

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OpenBSD 4.3-stable (GENERIC) #0: Sat Jul 26 13:50:52 UTC 2008
root@<host.domain>:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: VIA Esther processor 1000MHz ("CentaurHauls" 686-class) 1 GHz
cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,P GE,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,TM,SBF,S SE3,EST,TM2
cpu0: RNG AES AES-CTR SHA1 SHA256 RSA
real mem = 1005023232 (958MB)
avail mem = 963633152 (918MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 11/19/07, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf9440, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0000 (24 entries)
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 (slowidle)
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf0000/0xc594
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfc500/144 (7 entries)
pcibios0: bad IRQ table checksum
pcibios0: PCI BIOS has 7 Interrupt Routing table entries
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 5 10 11
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:17:0 ("VIA VT8237 ISA" rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc0000/0xfc00 0xd0000/0x2000
cpu0 at mainbus0
cpu0: unknown Enhanced SpeedStep CPU, msr 0x08100a1308000a13
cpu0: using only highest and lowest power states
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1000 MHz (1004 mV): speeds: 1000, 800 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "VIA CN700 Host" rev 0x00
agp0 at pchb0: v3, aperture at 0xe8000000, size 0x10000000
pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 "VIA CN700 Host" rev 0x00
pchb2 at pci0 dev 0 function 2 "VIA CN700 Host" rev 0x00
pchb3 at pci0 dev 0 function 3 "VIA PT890 Host" rev 0x00
pchb4 at pci0 dev 0 function 4 "VIA CN700 Host" rev 0x00
pchb5 at pci0 dev 0 function 7 "VIA CN700 Host" rev 0x00
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "VIA VT8377 AGP" rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "VIA S3 Unichrome PRO IGP" rev 0x01
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
pciide0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 "VIA VT6420 SATA" rev 0x80: DMA
pciide0: using irq 11 for native-PCI interrupt
wd0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0: <WDC WD1600BEVS-07RST0>
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 152627MB, 312581808 sectors
wd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
pciide1 at pci0 dev 15 function 1 "VIA VT82C571 IDE" rev 0x06: ATA133, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
pciide1: channel 0 disabled (no drives)
pciide1: channel 1 disabled (no drives)
uhci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 "VIA VT83C572 USB" rev 0x81: irq 10
uhci1 at pci0 dev 16 function 1 "VIA VT83C572 USB" rev 0x81: irq 10
uhci2 at pci0 dev 16 function 2 "VIA VT83C572 USB" rev 0x81: irq 11
uhci3 at pci0 dev 16 function 3 "VIA VT83C572 USB" rev 0x81: irq 11
ehci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 4 "VIA VT6202 USB" rev 0x86: irq 5
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 "VIA EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
viapm0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 "VIA VT8237 ISA" rev 0x00
iic0 at viapm0
spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 1GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-5300CL5
auvia0 at pci0 dev 17 function 5 "VIA VT8233 AC97" rev 0x60: irq 5
ac97: codec id 0x56494183 (VIA Technologies <83>)
ac97: codec features 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, No 3D Stereo
audio0 at auvia0
vr0 at pci0 dev 18 function 0 "VIA RhineII-2" rev 0x78: irq 10, address 00:40:63:f6:32:3b
ukphy0 at vr0 phy 1: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface, rev. 10: OUI 0x004063, model 0x0032
usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1 "VIA UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2 "VIA UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
uhub3 at usb3 "VIA UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb4 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0
uhub4 at usb4 "VIA UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
isa0 at mainbus0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: <PC speaker>
spkr0 at pcppi0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7
viasio0 at isa0 port 0x2e/2: VT1211 rev 0x02, HM, WDG not activated
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16
pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
biomask ff6d netmask ff6d ttymask ffef
softraid0 at root
root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b

Last edited by twisted_steel; 27th July 2008 at 12:40 PM. Reason: Added some more info to the top
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Here is the dmesg:
Be sure to send your dmesg(8) output to the address specified in Section 4.15 of the FAQ:

http://openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#SendDmesg

...as this provides information the developers can use to maintain & enhance hardware compatibility.
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Hello,

I think it would be nice to get a Sun Thin Client, but I see a few issues with that.

1) They don't run on SPARC anymore, but on RMI Au1550 - which is based on the MIPS architecture. I would want to deal with Sun to get SPARC.

2) As far as I know, they won't work without a server on the other end.

3) Because of #2, they are very weak on components such as CPU, RAM, and Storage. CPU isn't too bad - ~500MHz, but RAM is very low - I don't know what the current ones have, but the SunRay 150 had only 8MB of RAM (I think). And the Storage is (again I think) only enough to hold software enough to connect to the server, which is meant to do all the real work.


I think that if they made a thin client like they currently have (the basic design is there, in my opinion) and switched back to a SPARC (T2 - would be awesome) ~1.0-1.5 GHz, put in 1GB RAM, and gave it 16-32 GB RAM (maybe CF in RAID 1) - that would be a great little system. I could still work in a client-server environment, but would have the ability to work as a stand-alone setup.

But, just dreaming I guess.
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Here's my Mini ITX Intel Atom setup:

Code:
OpenBSD 4.3 (GENERIC) #1368: Wed Mar 12 11:05:31 MDT 2008
    deraadt@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC
real mem = 2135695360 (2036MB)
avail mem = 2062352384 (1966MB)
RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80<clock_battery>
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xe3590 (23 entries)
bios0: vendor Intel Corp. version "LF94510J.86A.0038.2008.0427.2223" date 04/27/2008
bios0: Intel Corporation D945GCLF
acpi0 at bios0: rev 0
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC WDDT MCFG ASF!
acpi0: wakeup devices SLPB(S4) P32_(S4) UAR1(S4) UAR2(S4) PEX0(S4) PEX1(S4) PEX2(S4) PEX3(S4) PEX4(S4) PEX5(S4) UHC1(S3) UHC2(S3) UHC3(S3) UHC4(S3) EHCI(S3) AC9M(S4) AZAL(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 4 (P32_)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 1 (PEX0)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX1)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 2 (PEX2)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 3 (PEX3)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX4)
acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEX5)
acpicpu0 at acpi0
acpibtn0 at acpi0: SLPB
cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor)
cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 230 @ 1.60GHz, 1596.33 MHz
cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,TM2,CX16,xTPR,NXE,LONG
cpu0: 512KB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82945G Host" rev 0x02
agp0 at pchb0: aperture at 0x80000000, size 0x10000000
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel 82945G Video" rev 0x02
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 "Intel 82801GB PCIE" rev 0x01
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 2 "Intel 82801GB PCIE" rev 0x01: irq 11
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 "Intel 82801GB PCIE" rev 0x01: irq 10
pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x01: irq 9
uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x01: irq 10
uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x01: irq 11
uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x01: irq 11
ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x01: irq 9
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 "Intel 82801BA Hub-to-PCI" rev 0xe1
pci4 at ppb3 bus 4
xl0 at pci4 dev 0 function 0 "3Com 3c905B 100Base-TX" rev 0x30: irq 9, address 00:10:5a:6d:a7:3e
exphy0 at xl0 phy 24: 3Com internal media interface
pcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Intel 82801GB LPC" rev 0x01
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 "Intel 82801GB IDE" rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: <ATAPI, CD-ROM DRIVE-24X, 242M> SCSI0 5/cdrom removable
cd0(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2
pciide0: channel 1 ignored (disabled)
pciide1 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 "Intel 82801GB SATA" rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 configured to native-PCI, channel 1 configured to native-PCI
pciide1: using irq 10 for native-PCI interrupt
wd0 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 0: <WDC WD5000AACS-00ZUB0>
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 476940MB, 976773168 sectors
wd0(pciide1:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 "Intel 82801GB SMBus" rev 0x01: irq 10
iic0 at ichiic0
admtm0 at iic0 addr 0x2d: 47m192
spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 2GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-5300CL5
usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
uhub3 at usb3 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb4 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0
uhub4 at usb4 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: <PC speaker>
spkr0 at pcppi0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7
uhidev0 at uhub2 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0 "Logitech USB Receiver" rev 1.10/17.11 addr 2
uhidev0: iclass 3/1
ukbd0 at uhidev0: 8 modifier keys, 6 key codes
wskbd1 at ukbd0 mux 1
wskbd1: connecting to wsdisplay0
uhidev1 at uhub2 port 2 configuration 1 interface 1 "Logitech USB Receiver" rev 1.10/17.11 addr 2
uhidev1: iclass 3/1, 4 report ids
ums0 at uhidev1 reportid 1: 16 buttons and Z dir.
wsmouse0 at ums0 mux 0
uhid0 at uhidev1 reportid 2: input=2, output=0, feature=0
uhid1 at uhidev1 reportid 3: input=1, output=0, feature=0
uhid2 at uhidev1 reportid 4: input=3, output=0, feature=0
softraid0 at root
root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b
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the postman will ring (twice) this week to handle me over my Atom board.
May I ask: how well it works with amd64, or did you stepped back to i386?
Dumb PAE NX bit question.
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revzalot,
the postman will ring (twice) this week to handle me over my Atom board.
May I ask: how well it works with amd64, or did you stepped back to i386?
Dumb PAE NX bit question.
I had problems installing x64 version of Openbsd 4.3 due to my onboard nic. I disabled it in the bios and installed a PCI nic card, xl0. All is well after that. I like the board and runs pretty good for the carbon footprint is produces as well as the price, 70$. I'm using it as a web/mail server. Good luck. Let me know if you're able to get the onboard nic to work. I believe mine was labeled re0? Can't remember.

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Got my Atom.
Installed the Aug 13th 4.4 snapshot and almost all what I need for postgresql server, NAT, ....
The onboard Intel lan chip is recognized at full (checked the sources before).
The AMD PAE NX bit gets OKayed as Intel XD bit.
No problem. 64bit OpenBSD is amazingly fast for a 1.6MHz CPU.
Just, it is mounted in a Morex Venus 669 case and the CPU is measured at 49 deg C, threshold of the BIOS: the screen just hangs there (for *any* 32 or 64 bit OS, Linux or else..). Must find a way to cool the darn thing.
Ordered another Atom board to serve as "Windows emulator", ordered at Saland Netherlands, board plus 1G RAM for 70 Euro VAT incl. (vs. Euro 91.65 at mini-itx). Just that I could not find cases at Salland.
Dmesg when the thing cools off.
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By the way, my mini itx board can fit into my atx case easily. The holes line up and the extra space in the case will keep the board cool and healthy. Keep us posted lvlamb.
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So far:
Box one: OpenBSD.
Snapshot 4.4 beta i/386 of April? works by just putting the harddrive from the former MB in it.
New install of 4.4 amd64 snapshot of August 13th, went fine, including pkg_add of *everything* I use. Since I rebooted it just halts after Pentium MT? support (in the blue background lines, so no logs).
Test will be kernel and world installed from source on a fresh or zeroed drive.

Box two: WinXP Pro SP3
No problem, still have to install coLinux and UWIN. Still is WinXP 32bit.
ArchLinux 64. Funny. First installed the core, selecting all available packages from base. System hang on installation of BIND (or was it DNS?).
New install with defaults then pacman -Sy no problem.
Fwiw, I could get a new Western Digital RE3 drive. Nice piece. Only buy the product numbers ending in *YS from WD.
Maxtor must have same high specs, but didn't found the proper webpages.

CentOS 64: first tried on OpenBSD box, but forgot that anaconda hates A6 partitions. Didn't got the usual message "partition is active", didn't got any massage at all.
Will retry later.

Slackware (always 32bit), till now, no way to install.

So, basically, my headless server/router works on OpenBSD, all I need.
My WinXP "emulation" machine can emulate many Linuces and has UWIN. Can dual boot with ArchLinux on which I can install the VirtualBox and emulate what coLinux can't.
As said, basically, I fill the bill of materials, run the stoopid Windows only apps, have darn Flash. Hope to get rid of the Windows if Wine works (Now release and not beta anymore).

Now two Morex Venus cubes taking the place of one midi-tower, each drawing 70W when the harddrives are working.
Noting that my half terabyte backup is in a separate eSATA/USB Antec enclosure.
My small contribution against greenhouse gases.

The Atom boards are really recent and new, they still have bugs.
I downloaded the specifications update (June 2008, hey! you call this an update ?
The document is named: 319978.pdf
The errata AAF4 seems to describe what I experience as this is application dependent, not OS.
Code:
AAF4         Writing the Local Vector Table (LVT) when an Interrupt is Pending
             May Cause an Unexpected Interrupt
Problem:
             If a local interrupt is pending when the LVT entry is written, an interrupt may be taken on the new interrupt vector even if the mask bit is set.

Implication: 
An interrupt may immediately be generated with the new vector when a LVT entry is  written, even if the new LVT entry has the mask bit set. If there is no Interrupt  Service Routine (ISR) set up for that vector the system will GP fault. If the ISR does  not do an End of Interrupt (EOI) the bit for the vector will be left set in the in-service  register and mask all interrupts at the same or lower priority.

Workaround: 
Any vector programmed into an LVT entry must have an ISR associated with it, even if that vector was programmed as masked. This ISR routine must do an EOI to clear any unexpected interrupts that may occur. The ISR associated with the spurious  vector does not generate an EOI, therefore the spurious vector should not be used  when writing the LVT.
BTW: re0 is a Realtek 8801, sound also is Realtek.
All in all, I find those 1.6GHz CPUs very cumfy for my usage. PC533 DRAMs and high specs hard drives surely play their part too.
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