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Old 5th May 2008
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The latest version of Slackware - 12.1 - has been released. The official announcement can be read here:

http://www.slackware.com/announce/12.1.php
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Happy times to see Slackware released at the same time as OpenBSD.

I still gotta search the Linux distro for me. I think I'll give Dracolinux a spin as it's base is same as Slackware's but it's configured to use pkgsrc for additional packages.
The one thing that bothers me in Slackware is lack of the setting it up manually. I like the tools to fetch my packages
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Slack is imho one of the best Linux distro, really UNIX-like and without massive <em>foo</em> ;-)
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Been a busy week around here getting OpenBSD and Slackware upgraded on all the machines. I got my 4.3 cd's a few days before Slackware was released, so I didn't have to do them both at the same time.
Now just to sit back and enjoy them
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I'd rather take Fedora or Ubuntu seeing as to the fact that both these distributions are backed by well known venders and i can get commercial support for them.
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I'd rather take Fedora or Ubuntu seeing as to the fact that both these distributions are backed by well known venders and i can get commercial support for them.
To each his own, I guess.

Can one consider Google as "commercial support" for FreeBSD? lol...

Google is a sysadmin's best friend

PS - Good to see Slack still chugging along. I'm far removed from my "Ohh lookie, Linux!" days, but back in the day Slack was a favorite of mine (still couldn't fall out of love with Debian either, but that's another story all together)
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I'd rather take Fedora or Ubuntu seeing as to the fact that both these distributions are backed by well known venders and i can get commercial support for them.
What kind of situation are you talking about here? Home user, company, desktop or server edition? And you think it is free?

http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid

Thanks but no thanks. $250 yearly fee for desktop support. Most of the ubuntu troubles can be googled and solved within a couple of minutes, and it doesnt cost you a penny
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I am only referring to the fact that both Fedora (Redhat) and Ubuntu Conical are founded by well known commercial promoters of open source. In the case of Fedora especially sense the RedHat developers have sparked their own little subset of distributions, and not to mention the fact that ninety percent of the fortune five hundred companies that use Linux on their servers prefer Red Hat.
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>I am only referring to the fact that both Fedora (Redhat) and Ubuntu Conical are founded by well known commercial promoters of open source.

And Patrick Volkerding (Slackware) is known for his quality work since the beginning of Linux. Ubuntu is founded by a millionaire and space tourist. It's experience that counts not money.

>and not to mention the fact that ninety percent of the fortune five hundred companies that use Linux on their servers prefer Red Hat.

That's not a fact for anything, it's just a number. Most of the time some decision maker in a company makes his glorious decision and some administrators can cope with the disaster.

Big companies like Juniper Networks, Yahoo, Nokia, Cisco etc. are using FreeBSD too, some of them even OpenBSD for special task. So what?
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Big companies like Juniper Networks, Yahoo, Nokia, Cisco etc. are using FreeBSD too, some of them even OpenBSD for special task. So what?
It gonna be off topic a bit but Im wondering why Google uses Linux distro instead of BSD? Surely google techie guys know how good BSD is, so it must be a good reason behind the scene.

My educated guess would be they started with Linux and if they wanna switch to BSD, its time comsuming, costly and huge load of work, or simply BSD is not good for cluster?
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It gonna be off topic a bit but Im wondering why Google uses Linux distro instead of BSD? Surely google techie guys know how good BSD is, so it must be a good reason behind the scene.
Google has a "specially crafted" distro (extremely slimmed down, only the bare essentials) on their cluster.

If it ain't broke... well you know.
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so it must be a good reason behind the scene.
they are probably using linux for the same reason that they are using commodity OTS hardware for their servers. probably they have their own software layer running on top of it that takes care of RAS so it doesn't matter what's running beneath it.
anyway, they have some of the smartest CS/IT guys so you can bet they know what they are doing.
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They also run their own web server application, gws, short for Google Web Server

They probably prefer to keep the distro name low profile but by any change do you guys know its name? Google is a damn good case study and Im always curious about the technology they implement
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They probably prefer to keep the distro name low profile but by any change do you guys know its name?
if you are asking about the linux distro google is using then i think your missed the point.
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I don't know that they are running any particular "distro". They may have at one time, but the way it is now everything is extremely custom. I, of course, can not say how I know this
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It gonna be off topic a bit but Im wondering why Google uses Linux distro instead of BSD? Surely google techie guys know how good BSD is, so it must be a good reason behind the scene.

My educated guess would be they started with Linux and if they wanna switch to BSD, its time comsuming, costly and huge load of work, or simply BSD is not good for cluster?
Google uses $BSD too, e.g. for their Android they are using the libc of NetBSD etc. And even Firefox 3 uses FreeBSD jemalloc because it's the best of the best. So well, there is hype and on the other hand there is reality without hype Do you need some more examples? There are lots of it. $BSD is the calm giant
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if you are asking about the linux distro google is using then i think your missed the point.
Ah you mean it shoudnt be a distro because it is pure Linux kernel with some google application on top?

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Google uses $BSD too, e.g. for their Android they are using the libc of NetBSD etc. And even Firefox 3 uses FreeBSD jemalloc because it's the best of the best. So well, there is hype and on the other hand there is reality without hype Do you need some more examples? There are lots of it. $BSD is the calm giant
I'd love to. More stories about the calm giant pls
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I'll need to download it and give it a test some time :-)


Slackware is one of my favorite GNU/Linux distros and one of the few I respect. But unfortunaley its last couple major version #'s didn't like my current hardware, and every thing else is too full of BSD ;-)


The only machine I have that has room for a Linxu distro, is pissed on by most distros... Only Knoppix, Ubuntu, and FreeBSD (since 6.0-Release) have actually liked that machine.
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Switch to latest OpenSolaris.
As they say, what Ubuntu tries to be.

Am a hard advocate of Slackware, only Linux distro to use Linus' Linux kernel.
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I started with Slackware 8 then used 8.1 then 9, and then 9.1 and I found no change in any of them except for new packages and expanding on 2 cds, and a few new startup scripts to detect hardware and load modules.

Is it same or any changes ?
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