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Can anyone suggest good terminal software for freebsd somethibg like terminal of gnome or kansol of KDE. I'm using fluxbox and dont have any desktop env installed.

Right now I'm using xterm, but I dont like it as there is no auto complete support for commands for non root users, or is there a way to enable this.
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I'm using fluxbox on this workstation with aterm installed, it works rather well..



My menu entry, "[exec] (Terminal) {aterm -trsb -sr -sh 50 -title Terminal}"

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Right now I'm using xterm, but I dont like it as there is no auto complete support for commands for non root users, or is there a way to enable this.
ugh?

I think you are confusing the shell and terminal emulator.
Basically, a terminal just prints text, nothing more.
A shell is what allows you to input commands.

Are you using tcsh? Here are a few nice options to put in /etc/csh.cshrc, which is the systemwide startup file, there are many more options, see tcsh(1) for more information.

Code:
set autolist            # Show options when autocompleting
set prompt = "[%~]%# "  # Show current dir.
set rprompt = "%m:%T"   # Show date&hostname on right side
set promptchars="#R"    # Use # for normal user and R for super
set autoexpand          # Use history to aid expansion
set nobeep              # Don't beep
set printexitvalue      # Print exit value if >0
set filec               # file completion
set rmstar              # Ask for confermation is we do rm *
set history = 1024      # Keep 1024 items in history
set savehist = 1024 merge       # Save history
set listjobs            # List all jobs after ^Z

alias ls        'ls -GFI'
alias la        'ls -GFIa'
alias lc        'ls -GFlThoI'
alias lac       'ls -GFlThoaI'

alias helpcommand man

bindkey ^[[3~   delete-char
bindkey ^[[H    beginning-of-line
bindkey ^[[F    end-of-line
bindkey ^[[M    run-help
bindkey ESCOP   run-help
bindkey -k up history-search-backward
bindkey -k down history-search-forward
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you can use ZSH
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I like rxvt myself, I've been using it for many years, ever since my first Slackware Linux install. It's available in ports. It's very lightweight, and uses very little CPU time while scrolling. (unlike konsole or that horrid gnome terminal)

I use the following command in shortcuts or menu entries to launch a really nice looking rxvt terminal:

rxvt -bg black -cr green -fg white -fn 9x15 -sl 1000

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Couldnt be happier with zsh and gnome-terminal. I quitted using gnome long time ago because its too bloated but I have to say gnome-terminal is pretty good with the multi tab and copy & paste feature.

Zsh with the auto complete feature is excellent.

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my bad. I mean terminal emulators.


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Here are a few nice options to put in /etc/csh.cshrc, which is the systemwide startup file, there are many more options
I tried these. They work fine for root but not for normal user.
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I tried these. They work fine for root but not for normal user.
It needs to be located in the user home directory and with proper permission, of course
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Are you using tcsh?
You can see the shell you're using with:
> echo $SHELL

/etc/csh.cshrc also works, make sure the file is readable for all users (chmod a+r) and ofcourse restart your shell (exec tcsh).
But if you want you can also use ~.tcshrc
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Right now I'm using /bin/sh.

Which one you guys suggest for me who is not that pro with freeBSD.

I just changed to tcsh and it is working fine i.e. all the options that I added are working. Now i just need to figure out how to change it parmanently, fount nothing in .profile and .shrc. any suggestions

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I prefer xterm:
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xterm -geometry 80x25 -s -vb -si -sk -j -sl 5000 -fg \#0f0 -bg black -fn YourFavoriteFont
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Right now I'm using xterm, but I dont like it as there is no auto complete support for commands for non root users, or is there a way to enable this.
Mate you must understand first that terminal emulator is not the app that is responsible for tab completion, terminal emulator is only about displaying the results of your SHELL, I think that you need to enable completion in your shell.

For CSH it is set filec and set autolist options in ~/.cshrc and I also admit using set nobeep to disable that annoying beep

You may also change your shell for ZSH or BASH if you feel more comfortable with them.
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I used to collect terminal emulators and have generally found them all more or less the same for common usage. The rest breaking down into pseudo/real transparency and tabbed environments as that 'extra some thing' to look for.


I use urxvt on my laptop but konsole is generally the best terminal emulator for the ease of configurability if your not familiar with X. xterm, rxvt, aterm, eterm, konsole, gnome-terminal, and so on... All generally work fine.


Shells I've also collected (along with window managers) when I had time.


tcsh, bash, or zsh would probably serve you best (tcsh == comes with FreeBSD, bash== standard issue for linux, bash & zsh == need to be installed on FreeBSD before usage).


I personally use zsh because I find it more to my liking then Korn, and considerably more Borne like then my fateful tcsh ;-)



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I use mlterm on FreeBSD. Of course, I have a page about it. http://www.scottro.net/qnd/qnd-mlterm.html

On Linux I tend to use urxvt. I need the unicode ability, which leaves out mrvxt, a very nice terminal otherwise. Aterm also lacks utf-8, and last time I tried it, didn't have any support for Japanese. Otherwise, it's a nice terminal.
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I use xterm because it's very fast and Eterm because of regional characters.
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I also use xterm because is the fastest and the most stable terminal. I haven't any problem with the regional characters (Greek), you must install and use the correct font.
On my .Xdefaults I have:

XTerm*faceName: lucidaconsole
XTerm*faceSize: 10

I also use the below in .cshrc (I use tcsh) in order to print the prompt on the xterm title bar too:

if ($TERM == "xterm") then
set prompt="%{\033]0;%n@%m:%~\007%}%h:%n@%m\:%~\% "
else
set prompt="%h:%n@%m\:%~\% "
endif

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I tried these. They work fine for root but not for normal user.
By default, root's shell is set to tcsh, and normal users' shell is set to sh. You can't use tcsh settings in sh, and vice versa. Read the man pages for sh(8) and tcsh(8) for the correct syntax to use for each.

Or change the shell of the normal user.

Or install a different shell (like zsh) from the ports tree, and use that. (But never change root's shell).
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Thanks guys

I used chsh to change my shell to tcsh. Now every thing is working great thanks to all once again.
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As for the shell I'm using, /bin/ksh OpenBSD's local pdksh is better then all others, no use arguing about it.
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Ok, BSDfan66, that one was funny. (Not that I'm arguing mind you). It was what a friend of mine calls C&C Coffee and Cats because if you are drinking coffee when you laugh, it spurts out over the monitor and keyboard and if a cat is sleeping on your lap, and you suddenly laugh, they tend to get startled and leap off, digging in their hind claws for purchase as they leap.

As for not changing roots shell, there's a little post on bsdforums--I'm too lazy to copy it over here. Just do a search on bsdforums for root toor
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