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View Poll Results: What rank system would you like DaemonForums to use?
Kienja's System 5 14.71%
BSDForums' Ranks 1 2.94%
Unix Hierarchy 11 32.35%
Custom Titles (Users choose their own) 17 50.00%
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Old 12th May 2008
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When I have a serious question, I usually figure it out myself or find it in a manual page some where. If not, it usually hits an IRC channel or a newsgroup if I need more brains.


My problem is I tend to visit forums that are important to me, at least once each day and read every thread, replying whenever I see a reason to do so or a chance to help out.

And _big_ mouths run in my family on _both_ sides !
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Old 17th May 2008
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Unix Hierarchy for me...
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Naw, this is a new forum, so what you have to do is make up your own ranks without telling everybody what they are so that they have to post a lot to find out
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I choosed Kienja's System, but letting users choose their own custom ranks will be very sleek, but having its own ranking system will tell how long a certain user stayed the more posts he has the longer he stayed on the forum
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Yes, but post quantity really isn't important. It could be someone asking a lot of questions like, "How do I add myself to the wheel group?"
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Aye, post quality is whats important.

But it takes a human to figure that one out unless you're a good AI Hacker I guess.
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Well, there are systems which are better than rough post count, a vB has this "reputation" feature, and there are several (more advanced?) mods in existence.

I didn't really look at it yet, but implementing a more advanced system like that may be an idea for the future...
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By the way, "Custom titles" can be combined with assigned ranks based on post count, reputation, whatever, for example my rank is "Administrator" and my custom title is "Nexus-6", so the "Custom ranks" option makes no sense.
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i miss all the posts most of all.
which is why i saved most all of my posts.

This way i can look up previous questions
that i may have asked before

Exactly how it sounds
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By the way, "Custom titles" can be combined with assigned ranks based on post count, reputation, whatever, for example my rank is "Administrator" and my custom title is "Nexus-6", so the "Custom ranks" option makes no sense.
Is it already enabled here in the forums?
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Actually, what is named here as Kienja's system, is a ranking system that I proposed as alternative to Kienja's original system, which I found lacking in playfulness and humor.

The ranking is not important at all. It is just tied to the number of posts, hence a quantative indicator and no indication of the quality of the posts.

I think we better do some efforts to get daemonforums.org listed on the major BSD websites, then waste our time discussing a ranking system that just means nothing

BTW the adminstrator of bsdforums.org probably has copyright on his ranking system.
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Old 19th May 2008
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Hello,

I do see the value of the reputation system, as it allows the community to deem who is more knowledgeable among them.
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I have a very bad taste for any rep system from another board--devshed, I believe. For example, a number of people hung out there for the socialization more than anything else and had 'guru' type status but you'd never find them in any of the technical forums. Plus, you'd have some with a certain amount of "reps" to give and might give someone 100 rep points cause they talked nice about them.
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So, what were the ranks on BSDForums?
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Does it matter?
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Old 21st May 2008
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Hello,

I might make a slight modification on the Unix Hierarchy system. And if going by number of posts - which should be incremented by a factor of 2 (hey, this is a computer forum!) starting with 128, so that you don't get the highest level after a handful of posts, I would set it up this way:


* beginner - 0-127 posts
o insecure with the concept of a terminal
o has yet to learn the basics of vi
o has not figured out how to get a directory
o still has trouble with typing [RETURN] after each line of input
* novice - 128-255 posts
o knows tha "ls" will produce a directory
o uses the editor, but calls it "vye"
o has heard of "C" but never used it
o has had his first bad experience with rm
o is wondering how to read his mail
o is wondering why the person next to him seems to like Unix so very much.
* user - 256-511 posts
o uses vi and nroff, but inexpertly
o has heard of regular expressions but never seen one.
o has figured out that "-" precedes options
o has attempted to write a C program and has decided to stick with pascal
o is wondering how to move a directory
o thinks that dbx is a brand of stereo component
o knows how to read his mail and is wondering how to read the news
* knowlegable user - 512-1023 posts
o uses nroff with no trouble, and is beginning to learn tbl and eqn
o uses grep to search for fixed strings
o has figured out that mv(1) will move directories
o has learned that "help" doesn't help
o somebody has shown him how to write C programs
o once used sed to do some text substitution
o has seen dbx used but does not use it himself
o thinks that make is a only for wimps
* expert - 1024-2047 posts
o uses sed when necessary
o uses macro"s in vi, uses ex when neccesary
o posts news at every possible opportunity
o write csh scripts occasionally
o write C programs using vi and compiles with cc
o has figured out what "&&" and "||" are for
o thinks that human history started with "!h"
* hacker - 2048-4095 posts
o uses sed and awk with comfort
o uses undocumented features of vi
o write C code with "cat >" and compiles with "!cc"
o uses adb because he doesn't trust source debuggers
o can answer questions about the user environment
o writes his own nroff macros to supplement std. ones
o write scripts for Bourne shell (/bin/sh)
o knows how to install bug fixes
* guru - 4096-8191 posts
o uses m4 and lex with comfort
o writes assembly code with "cat >"
o uses adb on the kernel while system is loaded
o customizes utilities by patching the source
o reads device driver source with his breakfast
o can answer any unix question after a little thought
o uses make for anything that requires two or more distinct commands to achieve
o has learned how to breach security but no longer needs to try
* *** - 8192 and up posts <- this one should be allowed to be user defined or selected from a lists of potential titles ->
o writes device drivers with "cat >"
o fixes bugs by patching the binaries
o can answer any question before you ask
o writes his own troff macro packages
o is on firstname basis with Dennis, Bill, and Ken
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There is no possible way your number of posts can correlate to your knowledge of BSD. Using the number of 'thanks' as a gauge would be more accurate, but even then still not wholly accurate.

Maybe some kind of 'exam' might be fun. Perhaps 10 or so questions per level to gauge your knowledge and assign your rank? Just an idea.
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I voted for Kienja's System.

WRT users being able to customize their own titles, there was a forum I used to frequent where this was possible once you reached a post count of 1,000. (In other words, there were titles assigned at various intervals, but once you hit 1,000 you had the option to change your title).
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Well my real opinion is that I think titles and post counts are kind of silly. It makes the forum kind of like a video game or something. I can't imagine how these features could help promote thought or anything.

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