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Old 5th June 2010
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FIRST PROBLEM:

I have a legacy server running FreeBSD v4.8_EOL (end of life); regardless, it is what it is
When I update the ports tree via CVSUP, specifying tag-RELEASE_4_EOL, the Apache22 version downloaded is v2.2.4.

I have a newer server running FreeBSD v7.2, and the Apache22 version provided is v2.2.11.

When I ask CVSUP to download tag=RELENG_7 on the FreeBSD v4.8 (EOL) box, it appears that most if not all of the entire Ports tree is summarily deleted. For example, in /usr/ports/www/, only directories for firefox, firefox15, and joomla are left!!! Absolutely no apachen . . .whatever. It wipes out most of everything, and checks out nothing!

This may sound naive, but does this imply that Ports for RELENG_7 cannot be downloaded onto FreeBSD v4.8 (EOL)? This sounds like something MicroSoft would do . . .if they had a Ports System


SECOND PROBLEM:


Apparently make config DOES NOT work with apache v2.2.4. Is make config not a feature of apache v2.2.4? Can anyone confirm this?

I've tried make install -DWITH_suexec -DWITH_cgid et.al.
I had to manually copy mod_suexec.so from the FreeBSD v7.2 installation to /usr/local/libexec/apache22 to satisfy a complaint that the apache server could load mod_suexec.so. Apparently, the make did not make the mod_suexec.so file; regardless, this hack seems to work.

Once past that objection, the server moved on to complain that it could not load mod_cgid.so . . .so I borrowed the same from the FreeBSD v7.2 installation of apache v2.2.11 . . .just to learn that it could not find shared file libthr.so.3. (this latter file resides in /lib on the FreeBSD v72. system). Installing /lib/libthr.so.3 on the FreeBSD v4.8 system did not work (I'm not surprised).


I know . . .I know . . .I need to upgrade the FreeBSD v4.8. I plan to do so; in fact, the purpose of the v7.2 box is for that purpose, i.e., a backup system, but in the short run, I need to have parallel systems running on both releases . . .as much as possible.

I'm downloading ports-all specifying tag-RELEASE_4_EOL . . .yet again. I need the CGI and SUEXEC. I may have to reinstall apache v2.0 (although I was having problems installing SUEXEC with v2.0). Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
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This may sound naive, but does this imply that Ports for RELENG_7 cannot be downloaded onto FreeBSD v4.8 (EOL)? This sounds like something MicroSoft would do . . .if they had a Ports System
No, you can download whatever ports/tags you want with cvsup. (Just don't expect the ports to work).
The problem is that there is no "RELENG_7" tag, the ports tree is only tagged for each version: RELEASE_7_0_0, RELEASE_7_1_0, etc.
You can see a list at the bottom of this page:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/

Please be aware, that this would mean that you would then be using:
An old and unsupported version of FreeBSD.
A ports tree that does not match this old version.
A ports that is no longer supported.

This will not work without signficant effort, time, and knowledge.
Use the FreeBSD 4 EOL portstree.

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Apparently make config DOES NOT work with apache v2.2.4. Is make config not a feature of apache v2.2.4? Can anyone confirm this?
No, there are no options defined, look at the Makefile(s)
Makefile.doc has documentation on the various knobs.

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Once past that objection, the server moved on to complain that it could not load mod_cgid.so . . .so I borrowed the same from the FreeBSD v7.2 installation of apache v2.2.11 . . .just to learn that it could not find shared file libthr.so.3. (this latter file resides in /lib on the FreeBSD v72. system). Installing /lib/libthr.so.3 on the FreeBSD v4.8 system did not work (I'm not surprised).
A FreeBSD 7 binary/library will not work on FreeBSD 4. You need to recompile the library on FreeBSD 4.
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You're best off choosing A or B, IMHO.

A -> Upgrade server to a supported version of FreeBSD.
B -> Install software "Manually" from source.

In the case of B, it would mean for example, doing a pkg_delete on your apache setup, fetching the current sources from the ASF and doing the usual configure / gmake dance that port automates. On the upside you can often find fixes in category/portname/files/ as patch files, not that they will always work on such an old FreeBSD release.
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apache22 applies several patches:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cg...pache22/files/
And probably more with sed inside the Makefile

These are patches for FreeBSD 6 and up. There are significant changes between FreeBSD 4 and 6.
It will definitely not be as easy as "fetching the current sources from the ASF and doing the usual configure / gmake", it will require significant knowledge, time, and effort.
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Thanks, guys, for the input and suggestions. I know that I need to upgrade the v4.8_EOL FreeBSD to (at least) v7+ . . .and I will ASAP. BTW, foolish me regarding the CVSUP tag=RELENG_7 thing . . .that was a holdover from years gone back. My Catch-22 is that I need some things to work on the v4.8 box ASAP, and I'm still configuring the backup box running Apache v2.2.11 on FreeBSD v7.2. (on this latter system, I also need to bring up BIND 9+ and sendmail, et.al.)

I have Apache v2.2.4 running on the FreeBSD v4.8_EOL box and SSL is sort of working; however, the Apache make . . .yada yada yada did not like the -DWITH_SUEXEC or -DWITH_CGID; therefore, I've had to comment_out LoadModule suexec_module libexec/apache22/mod_suexec.so and LoadModule cgid_module libexec/apache22/mod_cgid.so in the httpd.conf file -- the *.so objects apparently were not created in ./libexec/apache22. Regardless, I am satisfied that I may be dealing with idiosyncrasies of the older versions of FreeBSD and Apache; however, I do have a question regarding the upgrade from Apache v2.0 to v2.2.4 and v2.2.11 that presents on both v2.2.+ systems. I think for the benefit of other forum users, I should start a new thread . . .perhaps Apache v2.0 vs. v2.2+ with SSL.

Thanks again,
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