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Old 1st November 2010
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Posted by Theo today:

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=128862532525288&w=2

Help the OpenBSD project by purchasing an official CD set. As opposed to other Open Source projects which have corporate sponsorships, OpenBSD is primarily funded by the sales of CD's. Do your part to ensure that there will be an OpenBSD 4.9; order an official CD set today.

Ordering information can be found at the following:

http://www.openbsd.org/orders.html
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Code:
    o i386 and amd64:
       - ACPI-based suspend/resume works on most machines with
         Intel/ATI video. Machines using NVidia graphics will not
         resume the graphics.  cardbus(4) and pcmcia(4) will still
         have some problems, too.

    o Support for Intel Core i3/i5 internal graphics (Ironlake) has been
      added to inteldrm(4) and agp(4).
Impressive, seems that FreeBSD is pretty retarded now
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Impressive, seems that FreeBSD is pretty retarded now
There are some benefit of having developers running their own OS on their
desktops and laptops as oppose to running OS X and Windows as in the
case of FreeBSD developers
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@Oko

So true mate.

I never got an idea why there are so many 'white pears/apples' on FreeBSD presentations at the back of laptop lids.

I have personally used Macbook Pro 15" for about a year at work and I am very happy that I came back to FreeBSD on Dell Latitude E6400. Mac OS X is just so touchpad/mouse centric, there are so many places when You just can not hit the key on keyboard (even ENTER to confirm), or navigate thru buttons with TAB on some 'important quiestion dialog', you MUST use mouse/thouchpad because Steve says so. It just feels so retarded in some areas.
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>I never got an idea why there are so many 'white pears/apples' on FreeBSD presentations at the back of laptop lids.

*cough* *cough* ... it's "easier" ;-). Well, I have to works with the Apples, now since more than a decade, but I'm always happy to get my hands on something more UNIX like the operating systems of the BSD-family :-)
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OSX is UNIX.
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OSX is UNIX.
...like "tomato" is "fruit".

Technically UNIX, yeah...but that's about it.
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OSX is UNIX.
There is "UNIX-technology", there is "UNIX-behaviour", there is "UNIX-history" and there is a trademark called UNIX. The latter is OS X. Mac OS X is a plethora of layers above something once called a subset of BSD.
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There are some benefit of having developers running their own OS on their
desktops and laptops as oppose to running OS X and Windows as in the
case of FreeBSD developers
What's really impressive to me is that OpenBSD wrote their own ACPI implementation. Perhaps now that it's maturing, that is also partly why they're able to achieve better results. Maybe Intel's code is hard to work with, or it's just much more difficult to motivate yourself to work on someone else's code when that someone doesn't share your aesthetic and engineering sensibilities.
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What's really impressive to me is that OpenBSD wrote their own ACPI implementation.
So its high time to port it into FreeBSD
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I never got an idea why there are so many 'white pears/apples' on FreeBSD presentations at the back of laptop lids.
How do you know for sure they are not running FreeBSD on those Macs?
Any "confessions" I am not aware of? Any zoomed-in photos of their screens showing Aero or Aqua?
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How do you know for sure they are not running FreeBSD on those Macs?
Any "confessions" I am not aware of? Any zoomed-in photos of their screens showing Aero or Aqua?
Just follow some of them on Twitter or read their weblogs. You can even speak to them, they don't bite ;-)
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How do you know for sure they are not running FreeBSD on those Macs?
You assume that they would bought Macbook just as hardware? ... to run FreeBSD there?

I think that FreeBSD developers are smart enough to know that Dell Latitude / IBM ThinkPad hardware serve a lot better for that purpose, Apple hardware is not ripping helmet of the head that much.
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Just follow some of them on Twitter or read their weblogs.
Care to share some search keywords? I have visited FreeBSD and FreeBSD developer related websites and blogs in the past and searched for some more yesterday. All I can find when I search for "mac" is machine or Mandatory Access Control or Media Access Control address. As for "Apple", I always get 0 results. I only found one blog where the author used FreeBSD and praised Apple and MacOS but he is unrelated to the FreeBSD project.

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You assume that they would bought Macbook just as hardware? ... to run FreeBSD there?
And then, you are assuming they would not. Why? Why not?
It is just like saying Wintel hardware must be running Windows 7. I assume nothing, I rely on facts and then I affirm.

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So it is a hunch, I see.
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Now that you both have measured your genitals publicly, you can take your complete derail to PM or to pistols at ten paces. Just don't do it here any longer.
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