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My cat just spilt my coffee on my keyboard while running away from the hoover so I'm in the market for a new one.
My last one was a "microsoft ergonomic 4000" while it was comftable the build quality was crap and the keys where cheap. I like split keyboards and so I will be getting another one.
I'm looking at getting a goldtouch split any of you guys ever used/had one? I'm open to other recomendations as well.
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I have a Filco Majestouch tenkeyless with brown cherry switches. I love it.

There are a bunch of good mechanical keyboards out there with a variety of switches.

geekhack.org is good place to learn about them, in particular, this page:
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?tit...sary+and+Links

Not all mechanical switches are loud by the way!

http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?a...6&d=1309959583
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYK03...eature=related

Rubber does is what most cheap keyboards (including your old one) use. Scissor switches is what laptops (and some desktop) keyboards use. Buckling springs are the old IBM Model M switches.

I personally prefer tenkeyless keyboards since I consider them to be more ergonomic. With a normal keyboard you typically don't have the typing area of the keyboard right in front of you, on the right is the "arrowkey/INS,DEL,etc" block and the numpad. And to add to that, most people have the mouse on right too.
So usually the keyboard gets moves to the left, since 95%+ of the typing is done with the "typing area", this is not a good thing...

I'm not too sure about mechanical split keyboards ... geekhack has a list of various models...
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Thanks for the links I'm looking over them now. After using this small crappy keyboard I am realising I don't need a split keyboard (I only got it to force myself into better habbits and that has seemed to work). I wish I could try a mechanical keyboard before spending ~£100 on one.

UPDATE: I think I'm going to g with a noppoo choc mini/pro with blue switches (I heard read these are good to start out on.) Carpetsmoker is there any reason why you use browns?
Still up for other alternatives.

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I want http://typematrix.com/
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^ I don't know, that looks gimmicky ...

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Carpetsmoker is there any reason why you use browns?
Yes, browns are less noisy.
Blues "click" at the activation point (2mm), browns don't. Although they still make sound when bottoming out (4mm).

Other than that, the browns are a bit lighter, although not by too much.
In general, blues are considered best for typing, and browns a very good tradeoff for typing & gaming. YMMV though. I'm not rich enough to own multiple keyboards of this class, so I never tried blues

Here are the force diagrams of blues vs browns. On the horizontal axis the the distance the key travels, and on the vertical the amount of force required to press it down. As you can see there is a difference but not a huge one.





Noppoo keyboads ar generally recommended, although I don't like the mini's layout, it's a bit too cramped for me.
In general, there is little difference between these high-class keyboards with cherry/topre/etc. switches. There's the layout and a few still don't offer n-key rollover (i.e. press as many keys as you want at the same time) but that's about it ... The real "magic" is in the switches!

If you're UK/EU based, http://www.keyboardco.com/ is a good place to get your keyboards from.
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I'm looking at picking up a filco Majestouch blue of ebay.
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Just bought this.(ebay link) Thought it was a good price and the more I looked the more people recommended them.
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Just bought this...
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Sorry it's this keyboard. Filco Majestouch (blue)
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That seems like a very fine choice I hope you like it.
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My cat just spilt my coffee on my keyboard while running away from the hoover so I'm in the market for a new one.
My last one was a "microsoft ergonomic 4000" while it was comftable the build quality was crap and the keys where cheap. I like split keyboards and so I will be getting another one.
I'm looking at getting a goldtouch split any of you guys ever used/had one? I'm open to other recomendations as well.
Why do you need a new one? Just run it through the dishwasher, let it air dry for a few days, and continue using it.

Or, use a Q-tip and acetone to clean in, around, under the keys.

A single dip in liquid is not going to kill a keyboard.
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I've been wanting to get a Model M for a while, but now I don't know...those Filco Brown tenkeyless keyboards look very nice. My biggest obstacle in purchasing a mechanical keyboard is that I am a heavy typer, and my wife would kill me over the volume of my typing (I already upset her with rubber dome keyboards...haha).

But, it'd be nice to have a keyboard that lasts longer than six months...
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Why do you need a new one? Just run it through the dishwasher, let it air dry for a few days, and continue using it..
I tried taking it apart and drying it out. But only the 1 green light lit up and no keys worked.

EDIT: how can you thank people in this forum? I cannot find the button anywhere and would like to thank carpetsmoker for introducing me to the world of mechanical keyboards.
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...how can you thank people in this forum? I cannot find the button anywhere...
The "thank you" button was deactivated several months ago. If you want to thank someone, do so either publicly or privately via PM.
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I've been wanting to get a Model M for a while, but now I don't know...those Filco Brown tenkeyless keyboards look very nice. My biggest obstacle in purchasing a mechanical keyboard is that I am a heavy typer, and my wife would kill me over the volume of my typing (I already upset her with rubber dome keyboards...haha).

But, it'd be nice to have a keyboard that lasts longer than six months...
Brown cherry switches aren't that loud. Model M/Buckling springs are frelling loud though.

Not sure if you saw these links I posted earlier, but here they are again:
http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?a...6&d=1309959583
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYK03...eature=related

It depends on your typing style though! The only sound you'll get from brown switches if they hit the bottom of the keyboard ("bottoming out"), this is at 4mm, the actual activation point is at 2mm and this happens with almost no sound!
This is different from most rubber domes keyboard, where you need to bottom out in order to activate them.
The keys are also lighter and smoother compared to most rubber dome keyboards, so you'll tend to hit them too hard and bottom out at the start, making a somewhat louder sound (not excessively loud though). When you get used to them, you'll hit them less hard and they'll make less sound compared to a rubber dome key board.

... That is my experience anyway ... YMMV® ...

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I tried taking it apart and drying it out. But only the 1 green light lit up and no keys worked.

EDIT: how can you thank people in this forum? I cannot find the button anywhere and would like to thank carpetsmoker for introducing me to the world of mechanical keyboards.
It also affects the rubber, making an even less comfortable typing experience! (Been there, done that).

And you're more than welcome fossala
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The keys are also lighter and smoother compared to most rubber dome keyboards, so you'll tend to hit them too hard and bottom out at the start, making a somewhat louder sound (not excessively loud though). When you get used to them, you'll hit them less hard and they'll make less sound compared to a rubber dome key board.
That's what I was hoping was the case when I saw that the activation is 2mm above the "bottoming out" point. The question is, will my wife tolerate me typing hard until I get used to it? heh.
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That, I cannot answer
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My filco majestouch (blue) just turned up this morning.
I love it.
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Not to necrobump but damn you Carpetsmoker you have turned me into some sort of keyboard freak by linking me to Geekhack.
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