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Old 26th June 2012
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Default pkg_add is NOT clever

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#pkg_add -r pekwm
Error: Unable to get http://mirrors.163.com/FreeBSD/releases/i386/9.0-RELEASE/packages/All/pekwm.tbz: Not Found
We must use `pkg_add -r pekwm-0.1.13,1` to install it.


Can pkg_add be more intelligent, i.e. using RegExp to match the package ?


Sincerely!
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No it's not intelligent; it's a program. And it does exactly what you tell it to do.

Either you explicitly set the PACKAGESITE variable to point to that directory or you implicitly let it default to it.
The fact is the /All directory contains all the packages in the name-ver.s.i.o_n.tbz format while the /Latest directory contains symlinks to the /All directory in the name.tbz format.

So you need to set PACKAGESITE to point to the second one instead.

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pkg_add(1)
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO...ges-using.html
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I see now. thank you !
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You might wanna have a look into pkgng. It will be the default for version 10 (I think) and u can use it for version 9 too.
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You're right, pkg_add is as dumb as your goldfish. Probably dumber.

This is a feature, not a bug.

If you've ever tried to hack or debug something like yum, you see the advantage. Hacking Yum is almost impossible, and when something goes wrong it usually takes a lot of time to pin down the problem & solve it. It's just too complicated.
Hacking pkg_add is easy, it does one thing, and does it well. Why ask for more?
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You might wanna have a look into pkgng. It will be the default for version 10 (I think) and u can use it for version 9 too.
IMHO, if ( v11 == ( mandatory deprecate-/var/db/pkg )) occurs as some expect, it amounts to
a fork of freebsd to be more windows-like, as in "rather than /usr/local/etc
we have a registry" (I read once a post or webpage calling that a very
unwise design)... or as in "pkg_add has been enhanced to include portupgrade,
(19 .so. vs 3...) so portmaster, /var/db/pkg/, portmanager, portupgrade, one's
find/grep/awk/less manipulations of /var/db/pkg (python26 > python27 for
example), are all done away with; and a greater chance of irrecoverable
data loss [1] and a database FE to the flat files)... (pkg segfaults on my p4 in some
of the non-default cli; may be too memory-intensive for p2, p3 installs ... )etc...
I posted today a large post to the freebsd-ports list, and a post also to the
freebsd forums (thread: "Please explain to me")...

[1]
Please see the posts on those lists and the forum, where I go into greater detail.
Someday I could retract all these misgivings, but seeing no direct answers so far
I am pessimistic, to say the least...
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Not to mention the removal of yet-to-be /var/db/pkg - specific lightweight tools ( like portmanager); i.e., the next from-the-ground-up portmaster, portupgrade... without the programming expense of a hook into the sqlite database...
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A few more probable reasons.. (unless it is just documentation that is nonexistent yet...)

No clear equivalent to pkgdb -F (fixup of stale dependencies)
Untested portmaster resintall-all procedure per its manpage
A failed "make install", nowadays one can check the directory in /var/db/pkg with "ls"
Likewise a failed "make deinstall" ...
Nowadays, one can without a "failed to register" uncomment a Makefile line, and install two
ports which are in conflict (officially or unofficially)... saving time VS other more recommendable
ways.

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