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Old 5th May 2008
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Angry Openbsd 4.3 ar5006eg wireless

i had atheros ar5006eg wireless card
[bsd] # ifconfig ath0
ath0: flags=8822<BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
lladdr xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
groups: wlan
media: IEEE802.11 autoselect
status: no network
ieee80211: nwid ""
and dmesg
[bsd] # dmesg |grep ath0
ath0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Atheros AR5424" rev 0x01: irq 10
ath0: AR5424 14.2 phy 7.0 rf 0.0, WOR5_ETSIC, address xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx

my wireless doesnt work ...
how i can fix it? linux users has same prob. too
i had gentoo , it is working with ndiswapper but openbsd havent ndiswapper
how i can use my wireless ?
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my wireless doesnt work ...
how i can fix it?
It is not clear from the ifconfig(8) output provided whether you have finished configuration of your ath0 interface. Read the Examples section of the ath(4) for clarification.

Note that in your situation, hostname.if(5) will be /etc/hostname.ath0.
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It is not clear from the ifconfig(8) output provided whether you have finished configuration of your ath0 interface. Read the Examples section of the ath(4) for clarification.

Note that in your situation, hostname.if(5) will be /etc/hostname.ath0.
i understand but openbsd doesnt support my hal version and you should look at http://madwifi.org/ticket/1549
this link it is about hal , and u was gived this link http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.c...ormat=html#end
you could look at hardware support list , u cant see my chipset
maybe it should support it in future...
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http://kerneltrap.org/OpenBSD/Athero...r_Developments
interesting....
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you could look at hardware support list , u cant see my chipset
maybe it should support it in future...
Improving support for the various wireless chipsets (as with lots of other hardware...) is on-going.
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I wonder if it's at all similar to Linux, where the popular (in lower end machines) AR5007EG is being misreported by the system as an AR5006EG. (In Linux, lspci doesn't yet recognize it.)

If so, it's the same card as in the ASUS EEE PC and there's probably an OpenBSD howto somewhere. (I know there's one for FreeBSD.)

That's just a guess, and just because Linux doesn't find it correctly doesn't mean that BSD doesn't.
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If so, it's the same card as in the ASUS EEE PC and there's probably an OpenBSD howto somewhere. (I know there's one for FreeBSD.)
We are getting off subject here, but OpenBSD doesn't support the Eee PC's wireless Atheros chip yet partially because OpenBSD doesn't allow third party drivers. Otherwise, I've been running -current on mine for about a month now with no issue.
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how i can run ndiswapper on openbsd ? because i using it with linux my wireless working fine..
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how i can run ndiswapper on openbsd ?
No. As part of OpenBSD's focus on security, outside drivers are not allowed.
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No. As part of OpenBSD's focus on security, outside drivers are not allowed.
u think openbsd will support my driver?
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u think openbsd will support my driver?
If you are asking whether a Linux driver is compatible in the OpenBSD environment, the answer is no.
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http://blog.chinaunix.net/u/184/showart_474722.html
i found that

cd madwifi-ng-r2756+ar5007/hal
cp -R * /usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/ath/

they was do that with freebsd... how i can do that on openbsd ?
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they was do that with freebsd... how i can do that on openbsd ?
This is not compatible with OpenBSD. You will need to wait until the project's developers come up with their own solution.
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This is not compatible with OpenBSD. You will need to wait until the project's developers come up with their own solution.
u think are they working about that ?
how i can get info about that? when it will support it?
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how i can get info about that? when it will support it?
The shortest answer is that you can read/search the archives of the official misc@ mailing list as this is where developers answer some questions.

However, be aware that there are vast cultural differences between the OpenBSD community & what you may be more accustomed to in the Linux world. In the OpenBSD universe, the developers create, tweak, & enhance the operating system for themselves. Users have no say in what features are added & when those features are added unless they contribute code for consideration or fork out money. Even then, there is no guarantee that code contributions will be incorporated if the developers do not feel that the quality is high enough, stable enough, encumbered by license issues, or is not in line with the project's goals.

Drivers are announced & integrated into the operating system when they are ready. No sooner. Be aware that most wireless chipset vendors fear releasing specifications either to expose flaws or give intellectual property to their competitors. The OpenBSD project functions on open standards & specifications. This runs counter to what vendors want to make available, so it is not uncommon that the integration of drivers is slower here as opposed to other Open Source projects. If support is so critically important to you, the goals of the OpenBSD project may not be aligned with what you want.

If you decide to ask on misc@, be prepared to either be ignored, or blatantly told to go away. Attempting to apply pressure will simply be counter-productive.

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i asked from mail list ;
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=121087147305842&w=2

none doesnt answer yet
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i asked from mail list...
Yes, I saw your post. To be blunt, I don't expect you will get a response for the reasons already discussed.

Although there is some virtue in persistence, both the number & frequency of your messages gives the appearance that you want & expect an immediate solution. Most likely, you will need to reset your expectations to something more realistic.

Given the closed nature of OpenBSD for both stability & security reasons, hacking solutions found in other operating systems to work with OpenBSD is not going to happen. Driver improvements will happen in due time. If you expect & want something to happen sooner, I respectfully suggest that you consider other operating systems.
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If you want OpenBSD to develop updates to match your particular NIC, you can wait and hope, contact the developer(s) directly, or do the development work yourself. Assuming you need a developer:

To the best of my recollection, reyk@ is the developer who has done recent work on a variety of newer Atheros chipsets. As I see it, you could
  1. Contact him to see if he is still working on Atheros updates.
  2. If so, you could ask if he already has a NIC with an AR5424 chipset available.
  3. If not, you could offer to send him your NIC (or laptop, if it's built-in), or buy him one.
Your other choices are to acquire a supported NIC or switch to an OS that supports your NIC.
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If you want OpenBSD to develop updates to match your particular NIC, you can wait and hope, contact the developer(s) directly, or do the development work yourself. Assuming you need a developer:

To the best of my recollection, reyk@ is the developer who has done recent work on a variety of newer Atheros chipsets. As I see it, you could
  1. Contact him to see if he is still working on Atheros updates.
  2. If so, you could ask if he already has a NIC with an AR5424 chipset available.
  3. If not, you could offer to send him your NIC (or laptop, if it's built-in), or buy him one.
Your other choices are to acquire a supported NIC or switch to an OS that supports your NIC.
i send mail to reyk@ about that i hope he will fix this prob in future...

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