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View Poll Results: What is the best browser for *BSD systems?
Firefox 36 50.00%
Mozilla 0 0%
SeaMonkey 2 2.78%
Netscape 0 0%
Opera 20 27.78%
Safari 0 0%
Internet Explorer 0 0%
Amaya 0 0%
Lynx 3 4.17%
Links 0 0%
Elinks 1 1.39%
Dillo 0 0%
w3m 3 4.17%
Konqueror 2 2.78%
Galeon 1 1.39%
Epiphany 1 1.39%
Flock 1 1.39%
Camino 0 0%
Skipstone 0 0%
Other 2 2.78%
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Old 16th June 2008
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I think the best browser is firefox.

I hope that in the future are available minimal browser based on Webkit.

I saw some projects on the network but are still in experimental phase. (I have tried Arora on Ubuntu Hardy).

I would like a minimal browser with few dependencies but complete for X.
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There is more to web browsing then just the rendering engine drhowarddrfine.

A web browser also provides the user interface and niceties of surfing the web. While the rendering engine takes care of the formating and layout of the content.


Even if Gecko comes in shape usable to compile and surf with, I doubt using it and nothing else would be very much fun for most people ;-)


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Best overall browser should also read the dumb flash player sites.

Which leaves your list with?

Opera under Linux emulation?

That is not even *BSD, so not in the list neither.
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Am I the only fool who has been perfectly happy enough to live without need of flash for the last 10 years :-P
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I use Firefox, opera is fine too, any of these two
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There is more to web browsing then just the rendering engine drhowarddrfine.
Well, duh. I was just pointing it out.
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Am I the only fool who has been perfectly happy enough to live without need of flash for the last 10 years
Flash is a nasty, horribly misused application. I avoided it for a long time, but now I use it strictly for Google Streetview (which can be handy when traveling to unfamiliar terrain on vacation or even within your own city). Ok, and I occasionally watch music vids on youtube.
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I have not used Flash/Java, They're a horrible disgrace to the Internet, as are sites that use Javascript excessively.
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Opera 9.50 seems to have caught the "sleak" black virus ... I don't know why so many applications use a skin like that ...
It was done to meet the demands/tastes of the main user group, who are using vista, or are on their way to using it.

It's, um, not very attractive to many, but if it helps take humans off the IE/Win horse, then it pays off, or such is the hope.

There is of course no reason to not customize it to tailor one's own wishes, even on systems where "native skin" doesn't really mean anything e.g.:

http://files.myopera.com/Moose/files/recent.png

Ultimately, it's the core rendering engine that matters to many, and 9.2x is far behind 9.5 in that regard...
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Am I the only fool who has been perfectly happy enough to live without need of flash for the last 10 years :-P
Not the only There are some who have everything off, including JS/cookies, selectively enabling them only for sites which require them, via site prefs - banks etc.

The nothing-on mode makes for truly fast browsing.
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Am I the only fool who has been perfectly happy enough to live without need of flash for the last 10 years :-P
No sites that I frequent require the use of flash. But lately friends who use windows send me links to youtube, so i installed py-clive to handle that.

I've been using Opera since version 5 on BSD exculsively.
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Am I the only fool who has been perfectly happy enough to live without need of flash for the last 10 years :-P
Maybe
First page at my ISP is Flash.
So I either have to grap a Windows machine or I can't for support or billing info.
Note that, tech supports goes no futher than asking you to run winipcfg or guide you clicking through the connection icon.
But, with my subscription I am entitled to 1/2 day of "free" Intermet hands-on.
I was happy.
Also happy to get my Windows installation CDROM. Need it to correct the level of my terraxe wooden tiles.
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Why does every discussion even vaguely related to the WWW turn in to an anti flash/java discussion?

Anyway, here are the browser stats for DaemonForums ... seems firefox is by far the most popular ...
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Browsers                Grabber Hits    Percent
Firefox                 No      442207  59.7 %
Opera                   No      117979  15.9 %
MS IE                   No      92265   12.4 %
Safari                  No      24795   3.3 %
Mozilla                 No      24712   3.3 %
Konqueror               No      19892   2.6 %
BonEcho (Firefox 2.0 development)       No      4850    0.6 %
Unknown                 ?       2887    0.3 %
OmniWeb                 No      2249    0.3 %
Galeon                  No      1852    0.2 %
Others                  6388    0.8 %
The "Others" broken down:

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Camino                  No      1554    0.2 %
Epiphany                No      1290    0.1 %
K-Meleon                No      1093    0.1 %
Links                   No      577     0 %
Akregator (RSS Reader)  No      191     0 %
Plagger (RSS Reader)    No      154     0 %
Dillo                   No      149     0 %
NewsGator (RSS Reader)  No      140     0 %
NetNewsWire (RSS Reader)        No      92      0 %
LibWWW                  No      92      0 %
w3m                     No      87      0 %
Liferea (RSS Reader)    No      64      0 %
Phoenix                 No      39      0 %
RSSOwl (RSS Reader)     No      34      0 %
Firebird (Old Firefox)  No      34      0 %
Lynx                    No      28      0 %
iCab                    No      26      0 %
Acrobat Webcapture      Yes     12      0 %
MultiZilla              No      12      0 %
FeedDemon (RSS Reader)  No      4       0 %
NetPositive             No      4       0 %
Wizz RSS News Reader (RSS Reader)       No      2       0 %
Some people need to upgrade .... badly ... O.o

Code:
Firefox 0.5.6           No      25      0 %
Netscape 4.0            No      108     0 %
Msie 2.0                No      12      0 %
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Yes, Off topic, sue us Carpetsmoker

People who send me Youtube links are instantly removed from my contact list...
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Netflix online movies and now Hulu, along with the occasional YouTube stuff, forced me to put Win on my notebook; but I'm really hating it. But I like to watch movies sitting in a chair or in bed.
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Flash is also a practical necessity if one wishes to keep up with the current US presidential campaign. Much of the rhetoric, pointy elbows, slime and (yes!) interesting stuff comes out as flash videos. You can see the memes developing from the original incidents. I grant that not everyone is a junkie of political campaigns like I am, but if you are, you need Flash.
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Flash is also a practical necessity if one wishes to keep up with the current US presidential campaign. Much of the rhetoric, pointy elbows, slime and (yes!) interesting stuff comes out as flash videos. You can see the memes developing from the original incidents. I grant that not everyone is a junkie of political campaigns like I am, but if you are, you need Flash.
Or, if you're like me, you can do it the old fashioned way via newspapers and TV. (isn't it sad that TV is becoming old fashioned )
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Am I the only fool who has been perfectly happy enough to live without need of flash for the last 10 years :-P
There is some good and interesting stuff on youtube (but you really need to search for it, most of it is just plain junk) - but yeah, I agree that flash is way too overrated.
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Anyway, here are the browser stats for DaemonForums ... seems firefox is by far the most popular ...
Thanks for the stats!
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Or, if you're like me, you can do it the old fashioned way via newspapers and TV.
IMHO, you can't really do it this way, unless you read a dozen or so well-chosen papers and spend way too much time on TV. That is, if you wish to have anything more than a cursory understanding of how event have developed.

That said, I do read five papers a day and a couple of weeklies (like the Economist). I don't have much use for television and their terrible reporting (with a very few exceptions).
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