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Old 13th April 2010
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Cool OpenBSD v4.6 & nVidia CK-804 chipsets

Tried to switch over to OpenBSD v4.6 but got nowhere. Currently running OpenSolaris on a Tyan S2895 mobo with the latest bios, chipset includes nVidia nForce™ Professional 2200 and 2050, and AMD 8131. Bought the latest 3 cdrom OpenBSD v4.6 set and tried to install x64. Here's what the dmesg began to spit out - nVidia 2200 not configured, 2050 not configured, AMD 8131 not configured etc... It did the full install and upon the 1st required reboot the system will not stop rebooting. Kinda hard to get a complete dmesg when you cannot even get to a log on screen. It seems to take my hard drive offline because after the initial install I simply type dmesg before the 1st reboot and it states the hard drive is offline, and a few other devices not configured. I tested with 2 Opteron 275's, 16GB ATP ECC Registered RAM, 1 LSI 320-2X Controller with 512MB cache ram on board, 1 seagate u320 15k drive. Attempted to mount the floppy after the 1st install was complete, and just before the 1st reboot - but fstab complains no such device. So without the above chipset being configured I have no CK-804 support, softraid0 is enabled but the system drops the hard drive offline - and the continuous reboot cycle begins. So I tried the x86 cdrom and during the initial setup it goes into kernel panic after the first 20 seconds of the install process. RAM and CPU's are functioning fine, This system runs FreeBSD v8 R2 x64, OpenSolaris 2009.06 x64 just fine. But made an attempt to install OpenBSD v4.6 and it fails every time. The chipsets came out in 2005, so its not like there isn't any driver support for them. Tried the install on 1 brand new Tyan S2895 board and 1 used board with the same results. I hope somebody has had a similar experience so I can nail this down. I run Broadcom 5823 Cryptographic Accelerator Cards and would prefer the hardened security Open BSD provides straight out of the box. Tried a snap shot of OpenBSD 4.7 and it looks like the only change was that the AMD-8131 was supported. Are the Dual Core Opterons causing the problem? Any ideas????? TIA.......
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After install, at the boot> prompt, use "-c" to enter the kernel configurator after the kernel loads and before it begins probing hardware. Try disabling ACPI. This power and processor management standard is often not followed properly by manufacturers. At the user kernel configuration prompt, UKC>, type:

UKC> disable acpi
UKC> quit

The kernel will then probe hardware and ignore ACPI interfaces. This -might- work. The ramdisk kernel seemed to work for you, and the ramdisk kernel doesn't talk to the ACPI subsystem. If this works, you can make the change to your kernel permanent with config(8).
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Thanks, I give it a try later on this afternoon, if it works I can disable ACPI in the BIOS also.
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Installed basically the same way. But upon the 1st reboot I get operating system not found, also the bsd.mp is not loaded. The A6H partition is there intact and set active, but apparently my RAID controller requires APIC versus PIC enabled. Maybe I can find someway to modify the bsd.mp and enable some of the device support I need, or maybe the op system "does not fully support the CK-804", That is what I am beginning to see as FreeBSD v8 installs with no issues. Its funny as GNOBSD i386 installs and allows the system to reboot into a GUI, but the dmesg still shows quite a few issues. TIA
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Smile PIC Installation on OpenBSD v4.6/Tyan S2895

Change #2. "Test #3" The system BIOS kicked the SCSI controller out of the boot sequence, so it was a simple matter to restore it. Only 1 dual core cpu is configured, 8GB ECC ram is installed, Broadcom 5823 VAC+ not being assigned mapping on the PCI bus (Bad News) but making progress. I can take a look at the BSD.MP, any suggestions would be appreciated as I only run SMP and Quad motherboards (Tyan S4881). Will send this dmesg out to OpenBSD folks, but believe I will get more help on these forums (from past experience with OpenBSD folks) Keep in mind I bought the 3 CD set to support these guys. dmesg follows.........

OpenBSD 4.6 (GENERIC) #53: Thu Jul 9 21:19:22 MDT 2009
deraadt@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC
real mem = 2682257408 (2558MB)
avail mem = 2585890816 (2466MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.33 @ 0x7ffef000 (34 entries)
bios0: vendor Phoenix Technologies Ltd. version "2004Q3" date 11/18/2008
bios0: TYAN Computer Corp. S2895
acpi0 at bios0: rev 0
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SRAT SPCR MCFG APIC BOOT SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices PCI0(S5) COM1(S4) COM2(S4) PS2K(S4) PS2M(S4) USB0(S3) USB2(S3) MAC0(S5) P2P0(S5) G0PA(S5) G0PB(S5) MAC0(S5)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 290, 2813.36 MHz
cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,P GE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT ,SSE3,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu0: AMD erratum 89 present, BIOS upgrade may be required
cpu0: apic clock running at 200MHz
cpu at mainbus0: not configured
cpu at mainbus0: not configured
cpu at mainbus0: not configured
ioapic0 at mainbus0 apid 4 pa 0xfec00000, version 11, 24 pins
ioapic1 at mainbus0 apid 5 pa 0xd0000000, version 11, 4 pins
ioapic2 at mainbus0 apid 6 pa 0xd0001000, version 11, 4 pins
ioapic3 at mainbus0 apid 7 pa 0xd0600000, version 11, 24 pins
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (P2P0)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (XVR0)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 255 (XVR1)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 255 (XVR2)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 255 (XVR3)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 17 (G0PA)
acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus 18 (G0PB)
acpiprt8 at acpi0: bus 128 (PCI1)
acpiprt9 at acpi0: bus 129 (XVR0)
acpiprt10 at acpi0: bus 255 (XVR1)
acpiprt11 at acpi0: bus 255 (XVR2)
acpiprt12 at acpi0: bus 255 (XVR3)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: PSS
acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB
cpu0: Cool'n'Quiet K8 2813 MHz: speeds: 2800 2600 2400 2200 2000 1800 1000 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0
"NVIDIA nForce4 DDR" rev 0xa3 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 not configured
pcib0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "NVIDIA nForce4 ISA" rev 0xa3
nviic0 at pci0 dev 1 function 1 "NVIDIA nForce4 SMBus" rev 0xa2
iic0 at nviic0
spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 1GB DDR SDRAM registered ECC PC3200CL3.0
spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x51: 1GB DDR SDRAM registered ECC PC3200CL3.0
spdmem2 at iic0 addr 0x52: 1GB DDR SDRAM registered ECC PC3200CL3.0
spdmem3 at iic0 addr 0x53: 1GB DDR SDRAM registered ECC PC3200CL3.0
spdmem4 at iic0 addr 0x54: 1GB DDR SDRAM registered ECC PC3200CL3.0
spdmem5 at iic0 addr 0x55: 1GB DDR SDRAM registered ECC PC3200CL3.0
spdmem6 at iic0 addr 0x56: 1GB DDR SDRAM registered ECC PC3200CL3.0
spdmem7 at iic0 addr 0x57: 1GB DDR SDRAM registered ECC PC3200CL3.0
iic1 at nviic0
ohci0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "NVIDIA nForce4 USB" rev 0xa2: apic 4 int 20 (irq 10), version 1.0, legacy support
ehci0 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 "NVIDIA nForce4 USB" rev 0xa3: apic 4 int 20 (irq 7)
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 "NVIDIA EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
auich0 at pci0 dev 4 function 0 "NVIDIA nForce4 AC97" rev 0xa2: apic 4 int 20 (irq 11), nForce4 AC97
ac97: codec id 0x41445374 (Analog Devices AD1981B)
ac97: codec features headphone, 20 bit DAC, No 3D Stereo
audio0 at auich0
pciide0 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 "NVIDIA nForce4 IDE" rev 0xf2: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: <HL-DT-ST, DVD-RAM GH22NP20, 2.00> ATAPI 5/cdrom removable
cd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4
pciide0: channel 1 disabled (no drives)
pciide1 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 "NVIDIA nForce4 SATA" rev 0xf3: DMA
pciide1: using apic 4 int 20 (irq 11) for native-PCI interrupt
atapiscsi1 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 0
scsibus1 at atapiscsi1: 2 targets
cd1 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: <HL-DT-ST, DVDRAM GH22LS40, LL02> ATAPI 5/cdrom removable
cd1(pciide1:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
pciide2 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 "NVIDIA nForce4 SATA" rev 0xf3: DMA
pciide2: using apic 4 int 20 (irq 10) for native-PCI interrupt
ppb0 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 "NVIDIA nForce4 PCI-PCI" rev 0xa2
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
nfe0 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 "NVIDIA CK804 LAN" rev 0xa3: apic 4 int 20 (irq 10), address 00:e0:81:57:ba:06
eephy0 at nfe0 phy 1: 88E1111 Gigabit PHY, rev. 1
ppb1 at pci0 dev 14 function 0 "NVIDIA nForce4 PCIE" rev 0xa3
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
vga1 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 vendor "NVIDIA", unknown product 0x0092 rev 0xa1
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 24 function 0 "AMD AMD64 0Fh HyperTransport" rev 0x00
pci3 at pchb0 bus 16
ppb2 at pci3 dev 10 function 0 "AMD 8131 PCIX" rev 0x12
pci4 at ppb2 bus 17
ppb3 at pci4 dev 4 function 0 "IBM 133 PCIX-PCIX" rev 0x03
pci5 at ppb3 bus 18
ami0 at pci5 dev 0 function 0 "Symbios Logic MegaRAID 320" rev 0x02: apic 5 int 0 (irq 11)
ami0: LSI 532, 32b, FW 414J, BIOS vA100, 512MB RAM
ami0: 2 channels, 0 FC loops, 1 logical drives
scsibus2 at ami0: 40 targets
sd0 at scsibus2 targ 0 lun 0: <AMI, Host drive #00, > SCSI2 0/direct fixed
sd0: 34728MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71122944 sec total
scsibus3 at ami0: 16 targets
scsibus4 at ami0: 16 targets
aapic0 at pci3 dev 10 function 1 "AMD 8131 PCIX IOAPIC" rev 0x01
ppb4 at pci3 dev 11 function 0 "AMD 8131 PCIX" rev 0x12
pci6 at ppb4 bus 19
ubsec0 at pci6 dev 4 function 0 "Broadcom 5823" rev 0x01pci_intr_map: bus 19 dev 4 func 0 pin 1; line 11
pci_intr_map: no MP mapping found
failed to allocate interrupt slot for PIC pic0 pin 11
: couldn't establish interrupt at irq 11
aapic1 at pci3 dev 11 function 1 "AMD 8131 PCIX IOAPIC" rev 0x01
pchb1 at pci0 dev 24 function 1 "AMD AMD64 0Fh Address Map" rev 0x00
pchb2 at pci0 dev 24 function 2 "AMD AMD64 0Fh DRAM Cfg" rev 0x00
kate0 at pci0 dev 24 function 3 "AMD AMD64 0Fh Misc Cfg" rev 0x00
pchb3 at pci0 dev 25 function 0 "AMD AMD64 0Fh HyperTransport" rev 0x00
pci7 at pchb3 bus 128
"NVIDIA nForce4 DDR" rev 0xa3 at pci7 dev 0 function 0 not configured
"NVIDIA CK804" rev 0xa3 at pci7 dev 1 function 0 not configured
nfe1 at pci7 dev 10 function 0 "NVIDIA CK804 LAN" rev 0xa3: apic 7 int 20 (irq 5), address 00:e0:81:57:ba:07
eephy1 at nfe1 phy 1: 88E1111 Gigabit PHY, rev. 1
ppb5 at pci7 dev 14 function 0 "NVIDIA nForce4 PCIE" rev 0xa3
pci8 at ppb5 bus 129
pchb4 at pci0 dev 25 function 1 "AMD AMD64 0Fh Address Map" rev 0x00
pchb5 at pci0 dev 25 function 2 "AMD AMD64 0Fh DRAM Cfg" rev 0x00
kate1 at pci0 dev 25 function 3 "AMD AMD64 0Fh Misc Cfg" rev 0x00
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot
wsmouse0 at pmsi0 mux 0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: <PC speaker>
spkr0 at pcppi0
fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2
fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec
usb1 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1 "NVIDIA OHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support
softraid0 at root
root on sd0a swap on sd0b dump on sd0b

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Only 1 dual core cpu is configured
Your dmesg is of the uniprocessor kernel, so you will only see cpu0 listed.
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8GB ECC ram is installed
The amd64 kernel will only address 3GB of it, including video RAM, unless BIGMEM is enabled. Doing so requires a custom kernel -- but this flag is disabled by default because larger memory is not production-ready, and is not recommended except for developers working on memory management.
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...I can take a look at the BSD.MP, any suggestions would be appreciated as I only run SMP and Quad motherboards (Tyan S4881).
The ramdisk kernel (bsd.rd) used for install should have discovered multiple CPUs, and should have installed the MP kernel (bsd.mp) as /bsd, and the uniprocessor kernel (bsd) as /bsd.sp.
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Will send this dmesg out to OpenBSD folks, but believe I will get more help on these forums (from past experience with OpenBSD folks) Keep in mind I bought the 3 CD set to support these guys.
Several things that may help, regarding sending anything to the "OpenBSD folks".
  1. You need not continue to try to install 4.6-release, which was built in July of last year. You will want to install a recent snapshot, which are already well ahead of 4.7-release, coming out in May.
  2. Don't send a dmesg to the dmesg@ address, which is only used as a library by developers of varying configuration combinations. Since you are interested in support, submit a -current dmesg from a recent snapshot (inline, not as an attachment) to the misc@ mailing list, asking for assistance.
  3. Be extremely clear in exactly what the problem is you are having. I've been having a great deal of trouble reading your posts and trying to determine your situation. Your dmesg below has ACPI enabled, and your problem description of a disabled ACPI environment reads like operator error to me, but I am unclear on exactly what is or is not happening for you now.
  4. You will get much further by phrasing your questions to misc@ in the form of "what do I need to understand to move forward? What else would you recommend I try?"
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Thanks for the input - but decided to rely on OpenSolaris, tried testing with acpi disabled through the kernel, the commands were accepted, but acpi came through the BIOS anyway. OpenBSD is about 1 year behind FreeBSD in chipset support, and about 4 years behind RHEL and other Linux distros. So OpenBSD will be shelved. OpenSolaris is improving constantly - and so is FreeBSD. OpenBSD is a dead issue, maybe someday they will catch up to the 21st century........................
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You are entitled to your opinion. Thank you for supporting, financially, a project you abhor.
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Thank You jggimi's for all you input, your help and comments were greatly appreciated! We need more SYS Admins just like you on any forums, Thanks Again! Maybe we can get an OpenSolaris forum going some day. I ran SystemV in the early days, it was a great Operating System. Mike
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You're welcome, Mike. I'm a firm believer of the application driving the architecture, and the architecture driving the OS. (Just because I like OpenBSD doesn't mean it's the right hammer for every nail.)

A couple of additional points:
First, there is a Solaris/OpenSolaris subforum here: http://www.daemonforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=33 -- It is low volume, feel free to jump in with both feet.
Second, the BIGMEM limitation which I mentioned was just discussed on misc@ today. Here's what was said by a user, and in reply, a developer. While you are no longer interested in OpenBSD, the technical description of the 3GB limitation may be of interest to you or other readers.
The user wrote:
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I know bigmem is still in a state of flux and can be enabled by editing
machdep.c and compiling a custom kernel.

I also realise that it may or may not work on OpenBSD AMD64 due to the
absence of an iommu on non VT-d capable Intel systems, aside from the
AGP/PCI-e GART.

What's the best way to test and report this?....
Developer Henning Brauer replied:
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> What's the best way to test and report this?

none. bigmem is known broken, otherwise it would be enabled by
default. and tests proving the fact, well, you could test that water
is wet, too.
The complete thread with unedited Emails is here: http://marc.info/?t=127129490200002&r=1&w=2
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