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What do you try to achieve by hanging on a forum for Unix enthusiasts (OK there are few professionals around here but most of us a hobbyist like me). Windows needs no popularization. 99% of all Desktops and probably close to 50% of servers run it. Are you just trying to annoy us? If you are unhappy that mail server at your University runs Linux you should take that issue with your IT department. If you are unhappy that some of you colleagues do not use word for publishing (I am mathematician so 100% of us do NOT use MS Word) that issue should be taken to editors of the journals. I am way too old to be a graduate student but even if I was the one you could not bully me into using the tools I am not comfortable with. I am competent enough to code the application which I need if there is none already. I have been using Unix for too long (since late 1980s) not because it was free or not proprietary but because the alternative was VMS and lousy OS/360. I do not hate Windows, its users, and M$. I just love Unix like most people on this forum and you can not question man's heart. |
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Simply, many people get taken with the idea of OSS, and think it should be placed on every desktop and server, and should be used for everything. That is more common in the Linux community, but it is pretty common here too. That just is not going to happen any time soon. There are many parts of the world that most people who post here simply are not aware of. Taken together, these are large and important areas. I admit that I get irritated when people look down their noses at Windows (or whatever OS you choose). For me they are tools to accomplish certain tasks, and not the end in and of themselves. If an application runs only on Windows, well, OK. If they can run on BSD I'd prefer it, but beyond serving and simple desktop stuff there really isn't much. That's OK too. |
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The program you cite does one of the many functions of Chromeleon. There are a few things to keep in mind for these sorts of tools: a typical biotech or pharma company has hundreds of these instruments. Heck, even my very small company has an HPLC (it runs under NT of all things). They are also the analytical backbone of the chemical, petroleum, polymer, consumer products, food and environmental testing companies. They are even used in wine making and quality control. There are likely more of these instruments installed than the sum of all the BSDs world-wide. I'd wager that 98%+ are controlled by Windows applications. The only ones that are not are those that are old enough that they have no separate control computer, and use on-board devices where the OS is not clear.
For those in biotech or pharma, the data that is stored (which the program you mention cannot do) has to be certified to comply with FDA standards. Otherwise, the data are not sufficiently tracable, and you the company loses your billion dollar investment into your drug because the FDA will not accept your data. Yes, this is a niche, but it is a huge one. |
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Ugh. I principle I agree, but in practice that is a painful road. I have found wine to be the most maddening program to use in all of OSS. Applications work one day, and not the next when the program is "improved." Many years ago I had Word 2K and Acrobat 4 running under Wine. Neither do any more. IE is unstable for me, but it is useful once in a while.
Codeweavers' support will help with some mainstream applications, and certainly I will welcome what they put out when they release Crossover on BSD. For many of the things I do a virtual machine just works better. Of course I only do the simple things there, and no games, AutoCAD or things like that. Those are just done better on a Win box. |
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No I do not. You are welcome to start one and prove me wrong.
Speaking of Win servers it was obvious an exertion. The same goes for desktops. Obviously OS X is not Windows and it has market share bigger than 5%., Linux probably have 0.5% of market share on the desktops. Last edited by Oko; 6th July 2008 at 08:05 PM. |
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I do not recall my exact registration number but I though that this was couple months old forum? Are you saying that it exists for much longer than that? |
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Heh. Well, actually, this is the descendent of bsdforums, which was apparently abandoned by its adminstrator. Although the two remaining moderators put up a heroic fight agianst the spammers, without the admin's help, it became too much, hence these forums were started.
As phoenix said, when I read that, I too said to myself, Wow. Errm, yes, I think that Dr J has proven he isn't a troll over the years--not to mention that along with BSD and LSD, he too came out of Berkeley. |
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I think this thread is healthy if not productive, although you could say I prefer to limit my involvement... That's for my own tastes not because it's out of hand or anything. One thing people have to remember is this is not face to face chat, it is an internet forum -- it's easy to take things a different way then was intended and the like. That's probably one reason at times I tend to be, ehh more careful with my choice of words. As long as people don't take stuff personally and assume the best intent, the thread will probably stay health. And any really stubborn people can always meet up later IRL and have a brawl if necessary >_>
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The only real deficiency of your FreeBSD desktop is that has no flash plug in and arguably drivers for USB video cameras so you can not do VoIP with video. Obviously people who write application are catering their customers and if wine producers happen to be predominantly Windows users the application written for them will run on that platform. You join this thread by arguing that any Unix based application is incapable of solving PDEs (although for practical purposes they can not be solved anyway and even if they could be solved that definitely would not be using numerical computation over 10^60 rational numbers) despite the fact that you know all too well that most simple numerical algorithms were coded in 50s and 60s using Fortran and God knows what operating system. Now you are arguing that lack of popularity of Unix among desktop users is due to the fact that there are no Unix specific application for Wine production. I do not get it. Most Respectfully, OKO P.S. By the way my grandfather was for 70 years ( he lived to be 87) producer of fine Serbian wines and the plum brandy called Shljivovica. I do not recall him ever needing a calculator let alone Desktop computer to manufacture those Last edited by Oko; 6th July 2008 at 08:47 PM. |
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In principle, WINE is great, and I completely agree with you, but like I said that Codeweavers shouldn't really concentrate on providing a souped-up version of WINE. They should develop versions of WINE that are compatible with only a single application or a handful of similar applications, then sell these wrappers of sorts. I'd imagine that some times certain applications in WINE break because of fixes applied for other applications. Either that, or Codeweavers should start marketing WINE as a starting point for companies to port their applications, maybe make some sort of porting kit as TransGaming did with Cedega for Mac.
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