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Advantages of FreeBSD over OpenBSD [Desktop]
Im thinking about using OpenBSD or FreeBSD for my desktop. Can someone tell the advantages of FreeBSD over OpenBSD?
I have a little bit of experience with openbsd (mostly firewall/pf) |
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The most important from desktop user point of view is a list of apps available.
Since OBSD has a smaller number of them, simply have a look if most of apps that you use every day are available. Have a spin with both - OBSD and FBSD. Also DragonFlyBSD & NetBSD are good for desktop (with pkgsrc). Advantages of FreeBSD over any other BSD is a big "community" & number of ports. |
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Nvidia graphics driver for both i386 and amd64, zfs support, same ports tree for all branches, AHCI and NCQ support, and flash plugin support are the ones I can think of off the top of my head
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OpenBSD supports AHCI and NCQ.
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I didn't know that; Thank you. Seems they've had it since 4.2 for ahci
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With the rise of WebKit based browsers, it's worth looking at them for a replacement for Firefox and Opera in situations where neither are suitable. Marco Peereboom has a vi-inspired browser based around WebKit, it's strictly a no frills experience though, others include midori and an old chromium port. Comparing OpenBSD and FreeBSD for desktop usages is kind of difficult to do fairly, they both have arguably comparable feature sets.. but sometimes in different areas. The websites of each project attempt to highlight these, and with further research you can dig up more information, but in the end I believe it's safe to say that most of the regulars here started out trying several different systems before settling on the one that came closest to matching all our needs, technical and philosophical. Some end up deciding to use a wide variety of different OS's, in tandem, perhaps that just fits their requirements. Anyway, it's all debatable in the end, listing out the reasons for choosing one or another doesn't really serve much of a purpose in the end. Last edited by BSDfan666; 30th August 2010 at 04:19 PM. |
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If I have to come up with one that would be existence of the native Opera web-Browser for FreeBSD. That being said I made this post from Opera running on the top of OpenBSD 4.8 with bsd.mp kernel. Last edited by Oko; 31st August 2010 at 05:20 AM. |
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amd64 hardware until recently was too buggy for more than 4GB of memory http://quigon.bsws.de/papers/2010/bs.../mgp00002.html OpenBSD will probably support more than 4GB of RAM on amd64 but I have a hard time to see how is that useful to a desktop user (see original question). Actually larger memory space can easily make applications more sluggish. Last edited by Oko; 31st August 2010 at 05:12 AM. |
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You mean binary blob driver? Good luck with it.
I fail to see how zfs would be useful for a typical desktop user. On another hand udf (blue ray, dvd) is for most desktop users very important. OpenBSD has second to none support for udf file system (it is better than Windows support). You can read cvs commits. Having a great audio server in the base is also a big + for OpenBSD. You are not very familiar with OpenBSD... Quote:
Java barely works on FreeBSD on another hand the latest Icedtea is ported to NetBSD. Work is in progress on OpenBSD. Support for native SUN Java works far better on OpenBSD than on FreeBSD but that is beyond the point. Last edited by Oko; 31st August 2010 at 05:57 AM. |
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Number if ports is a fake argument. It really depends what you use. I will go as far as to claim that a typical desktop applications like MPlayer, Sane-backends, HPLIP are far more up to date on OpenBSD than on FreeBSD. FreeBSD supports far less network hardware and has no support (except for the cheap hack which uses Linux drivers) for video devices of any kind. Last edited by Oko; 31st August 2010 at 05:17 AM. |
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I would actually like to bring one fact commonly left out when it comes to desktop use. What do developers use on their desktops? A typical FreeBSD developer uses MAC and runs OS X. A typical OpenBSD developer eats his own soup. Last edited by Oko; 31st August 2010 at 05:22 AM. |
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Now this is a big +1 for OpenBSD.
What stops me from even trying OBSD/NetBSD is the lack of img file - I use BSD on my netbook since it has a "good hardware for BSD" but it has no cd-rom (as most netbooks). Is there a way to install OBSD form an usb-stick? OT: To be honest, I like DragonFlyBSD with HAMMER fs which works very well on even small ssd (20GB). I had (or dfbsd) a problem with packages and pkgsrc after an upgrade of some of it part & I'm waiting for new release which is scheduled on this september. Can't wait |
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If you own another system that has a floppy or CD-ROM drive, which also has a USB port, you can boot the floppy/CD-ROM and prepare the USB drive for booting on the netbook.. either manually or just by doing a full installation of OpenBSD right onto the USB drive. Other options from FAQ 4.13.6 include PXE booting (..if BIOS/Ethernet support it) or simply obtaining a USB floppy/CD-ROM drive and use the regular installation media. No need to make it complicated.. |
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Pro OpenBSD:
If I keep going on OpenBSD, I'll hit the maximum size limits for posts, so I'll just say that I like that OS a lot .
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Don't want to paint bikesheds, but FreeBSD can be upgraded binary quite easily using either freebsd-update or manually with the tarfiles if you really want to.
Using packages is also quite feasible, I've been using packages almost exclusively for the last year orso ... It's certainly true that the emphasis is often on source builds, but binary builds/upgrades work quite well too. The only thing I build from source nowadays is the kernel on my laptop, for the reason that not compiling in some drivers saves power so the battery will last longer.
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Sure? I have a lot of "desktop-drives", each one is capable of NCQ. Most of the time the FBSD driver is just PITA, has its caveats.
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