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Old 2nd April 2010
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From a mail by Doug Barton http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/f...il/056057.html

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SUMMARY

On February 21 I sent a message to freebsd-arch at FreeBSD.org detailing
the current state of BIND on FreeBSD, and plans for the future. You can
see that message here:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/f...ry/009908.html

In that message I asked for feedback on my plans for dealing with BIND
in the base. There wasn't much response on the lists, however I did
receive a great deal of response privately, all more or less to the
effect of, "Do we really need to continue having BIND in the base at
all?" After careful consideration and private discussion about this
issue the conclusion has been reached that the answer to this question
is, "No." Therefore we will be removing BIND from the FreeBSD base.
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So this is just rm bind and not 's/bind/$something_else/'?

Having at least a proper resolver is a must IMO.
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It seems this will also be happening eventually in the OpenBSD camp, I believe that NSD and Unbound will be the favoured alternative.

I remember reading that the future of BIND, version 10, will be rewritten almost entirely in C++/Python instead of just C.. this is something I don't believe that many people are fond of.
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J65nko, thanks for news
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It's too bad it's not true.

Perhaps next year, they'll finally remove sendmail from the base.
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It is so easy to forget what the calendar reads, hehe.
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Well, maybe we will see in 10 years or so just a kernel and BSD core utilities and most of the applications/libraries spread over the ports ;-)
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From the same thread, the reply of Doug Barton, the OP (Original Poster):

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So first of all, yes Virginia, this was an April Fool's Day joke. To
both those for whom this post created a false sense of despair, and
(perhaps more importantly) to those for whom it created a false sense of
joy, my apologies. And for the record, everything from here on is
"just the facts."

I have always said that I will remove BIND from the base when there is
clear community consensus to do so, and I stand by that. However the
discussion always seems to go along the lines that this thread did. A
vocal group who say, "YES!" and then a lot of people who want the
resolution tools (dig, host, nslookup) to stay, and the other end of the
bell-shaped curve with those who like having the whole thing in the
base. Toss in a few choruses of "The whole base should be more modular,"
(a viewpoint with which I have a great deal of sympathy btw) and the
soup is pretty well complete.
For Doug's complete post see http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/f...il/056088.html
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>So first of all, yes Virginia, this was an April Fool's Day joke.

I like this day, but on the WWW it's just crap.
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