DaemonForums  

Go Back   DaemonForums > OpenBSD > OpenBSD Packages and Ports

OpenBSD Packages and Ports Installation and upgrading of packages and ports on OpenBSD.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1   (View Single Post)  
Old 25th December 2008
Oko's Avatar
Oko Oko is offline
Rc.conf Instructor
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kosovo, Serbia
Posts: 1,102
Default Skype on OpenBSD

Here is the screen shoot of my DeLL Latitude D830 running
Code:
OpenBSD foo.my.domain 4.4 GENERIC.MP#844 i386





Is there are any chance that somebody send me the following library

Code:
libasound.so.2
from a Linux machine. It is the only hidden dynamic library needed to run Skype on OpenBSD. I linked libsalsa.so.2.0.0 instead of real libasound.so.2
but I think it makes application sluggish.
It is needed for idiotic GUI. This is the version of Skype with OSS static libraries so ALSA and above library should not be needed for audio.
The listed audio device is /dev/dsp (which is synthetic voice on FreeBSD) but such audio device doesn't exist on OpenBSD so I will have to play now little bit more with audio.

Other than audio Skype does work and I am able to chat with people even
to see them since this is Skype 2.0 version
Reply With Quote
  #2   (View Single Post)  
Old 25th December 2008
IdOp's Avatar
IdOp IdOp is offline
Too dumb for a smartphone
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: twisting on the daemon's fork(2)
Posts: 1,027
Default

The library you seek may be in this package:

aaa_elflibs-11.0.0-i486-9.tgz

I chose Slackware 11.0 as I believe it's the last built around the 2.4 kernels, which OpenBSD may require.
Reply With Quote
  #3   (View Single Post)  
Old 26th December 2008
Oko's Avatar
Oko Oko is offline
Rc.conf Instructor
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kosovo, Serbia
Posts: 1,102
Default

I still can not get it to work. For curious installation is described in

http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.os.bsd.india/352

except that the Siju is missing key step. In order for Linux audio to work
on OpenBSD one has to have a link

Code:
/emul/linux/dev/dsp --> /dev/audio
I tried above library with no success and libsalsa.so.2.0.0 which is OSS
substitution for libasound.so.2 for Linux machines that use OSS instead of
ALSA.

The only thing that I would like to play with is to try Skype 1.2 Binaries.
Those were pre ALSA pre 2.6 kernel and worked very well on FreeBSD.
I looked FreeBSD legacy port 1.2 but Makefile is sending me to NetBSD
as Master city. I looked NetBSD port Skype 1.4 which is by the way wip
pkgsrc not official pkgsrc and it sends me to Skype web-site. I could not find there 1.2 binaries.
Reply With Quote
  #4   (View Single Post)  
Old 17th January 2009
Oko's Avatar
Oko Oko is offline
Rc.conf Instructor
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kosovo, Serbia
Posts: 1,102
Default

Just a quick update. I found Skype 1.4 binaries on NetBSD web-site. The good news is that library libasound.so.2 is not needed at all. However if you try to start Skype you will realize that you missing library libsigc-2.0.so.0 which is easy to find.
I also want to point something I didn't mention before. Linux kernel emulator layer on OpenBSD is NOT working well on BSD.MP kernel.
This is well known issue according to Marc Espie. So you will have to use bsd kernel. With bsd kernel Skype 1.4 is rock stable on OpenBSD but I still have playback issue which is of course show stopper for 99% of us. You can use Skype for Chat if you like.
This time I am more optimistic and believe that it might have to do with azalia driver for my DeLL laptop which I use for testing.

Code:
$ audioctl
name=HD-Audio
version=1.0
config=azalia0
encodings=slinear_le:16,slinear_le:16
properties=full_duplex,independent
full_duplex=0
fullduplex=0
No full duplex as you can see but the fix is easy.

Code:
$audioctl full_duplex=1
$audioctl fullduplex=1
In spite of that playback still not working. The next suspect is mixer.

Code:
$ mixerctl -v
outputs.headphones.sour=dac  [ dac dac2 ]
outputs.headphones.dir=output  [ input output ]
outputs.headphones.boos=off  [ off on ]
outputs.line.source=dac  [ dac dac2 ]
outputs.line.dir=output  [ input output ]
outputs.mic.dir=output  [ input output ]
outputs.speaker.dir=output  [ input output ]
outputs.speaker.boost=off  [ off on ]
outputs.other.dir=output  [ input output ]
outputs.other2.dir=output  [ input output ]
inputs.dac.mute=off  [ off on ]
inputs.dac=126,126 
inputs.dac2.mute=off  [ off on ]
inputs.dac2=126,126 
outputs.other3.mute=off  [ off on ]
outputs.other3=120 
inputs.sel.source=other  [ other other4 other2 line mic speaker headphones ]
outputs.sel=126,126 
inputs.sel2.source=other  [ other other4 other2 line mic speaker headphones ]
outputs.sel2=126,126 
inputs.sel3.sel=119,119 
inputs.sel4.sel2=119,119 
inputs.sel5.source=sel3  [ sel3 other5 other6 ]
outputs.sel5.mute=off  [ off on ]
inputs.sel6.source=sel4  [ sel4 other5 other6 ]
outputs.sel6.mute=off  [ off on ]
outputs.other7.source=dac3  [ dac3 sel5 sel6 ]
outputs.other8.eapd=off  [ off on ]
inputs.beep=85 
outputs.volume=126 
inputs.usingdac=10  [ 10 1110 1f ]
record.usingadc=12  [ 12 13 20 ]
Even setting recording device to mic doesn't help much. I am not even able to record my voice with aucat. Issue is probably fixable with playing further with mixer states but
at this point I will probably move experiment to a desktop machine with Sound Blaster Live audio card on which full duplex and recording works as charm. I will post further on this issue.

Speaking of this stinky DelL Latitude D830 I can report that DVD burner is not connected to audio device so in order to play a regular CD you must use.

Code:
cdip cdplay
which is rip in practical sence with files going to /dev/null. So much about quality of DeLL Win Laptops.

Last edited by Oko; 17th January 2009 at 11:18 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #5   (View Single Post)  
Old 9th August 2009
Carpetsmoker's Avatar
Carpetsmoker Carpetsmoker is offline
Real Name: Martin
Tcpdump Spy
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 2,243
Default

http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-oss

Seems to be an ``OSS-version'', but it still required ALSA library.
Also, sound does not work ... I don't care so much about sound as I do for chat though.
So far, the program doesn't run very stable, in 5 minutes the program has crashed twice on me.
I have similar experiences with Opera (Installed from ports), it's not very functional ...

Code:
[~/skype_static-2.0.0.72-oss]% ldd skype                                                                  puffy:21:29
skype:
        libasound.so.2 => /usr/lib/libasound.so.2 (0x4cfae000)
        libXv.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXv.so.1 (0x4a508000)
        libXss.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXss.so.1 (0x4824b000)
        libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x480db000)
        libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x50c4c000)
        libXi.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x57803000)
        libXrender.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x50d5d000)
        libXrandr.so.2 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.so.2 (0x4b3f5000)
        libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXfixes.so.3 (0x4a025000)
        libXcursor.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXcursor.so.1 (0x5391f000)
        libXinerama.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0x5783b000)
        libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x4d06e000)
        libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x4882f000)
        libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x49b7d000)
        libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x4bfc5000)
        librt.so.1 => /lib/librt.so.1 (0x4cd84000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4a973000)
        libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x50f4f000)
        libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x51e5a000)
        libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4eaa5000)
        libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x553c6000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4e840000)
        libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x54d88000)
        libexpat.so.0 => /usr/lib/libexpat.so.0 (0x52c7d000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4dcb7000)
__________________
UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things.
Reply With Quote
  #6   (View Single Post)  
Old 9th August 2009
Oko's Avatar
Oko Oko is offline
Rc.conf Instructor
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kosovo, Serbia
Posts: 1,102
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carpetsmoker View Post
http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-oss

Seems to be an ``OSS-version'', but it still required ALSA library.
Also, sound does not work ... I don't care so much about sound as I do for chat though.
So far, the program doesn't run very stable, in 5 minutes the program has crashed twice on me.
I have similar experiences with Opera (Installed from ports), it's not very functional ...
You must be using bsd.mp kernel since you probably have multi core machine. Linux emulation doesn't interact well with bsd.mp kernel. That is well know bug and there is no fix for it. Try running Opera and Skype on bsd kernel.

Opera 9.64 is rock stable on 4.5/i386 stable (release version 9.63 also but it has serious security bug so I back ported 9.64). Opera 10 runs also very stable. You can find unofficial port of Opera 10.xxx on the ports mailing list. Use MARC's server to browse archive since he is not stripping attachments.

Skype 1.4 (which you can get from NetBSD repository) works rock stable.
You will not be able to use the sound though. I was able to get the message working but not full duplex (audio recording). I do not use Skype so I do not care. If you want VoIP with OpenBSD this is how should be done OpenBSD way

http://archive.openbsd.nu/?ml=openbs...-06&m=10838127

Acrobat 7.0 works very stable including on bsd.mp kernel which was a HUGE surprise for me.

In principle Linux emulation is dying code and right now exists so that people can run Opera. FreeBSD emulation is also dead as far as I know. You can not run any 6.0 or latter binaries.

Best,
OKO

Last edited by Oko; 9th August 2009 at 11:08 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7   (View Single Post)  
Old 9th August 2009
Carpetsmoker's Avatar
Carpetsmoker Carpetsmoker is offline
Real Name: Martin
Tcpdump Spy
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 2,243
Default

Quote:
You must be using bsd.mp kernel since you probably have multi core machine. Linux emulation doesn't interact well with bsd.mp kernel. That is well know bug and there is no fix for it. Try running Opera and Skype on bsd kernel.
Yes, I'm using bsd.mp, this must be the problem then.
Does running bsd.sp affect performance a lot?

Quote:
FreeBSD emulation is also dead as far as I know. You can not run any 6.0 or latter binaries.
There are FreeBSD 5 and FreeBSD 6 binaries for Opera ... (Not for Skype though ...)

As a sidenote, I really, really dislike Skype I only use it because some people I know will not use anything else Now I have to fire up a Windows machine every time I want to use it ... :-/
__________________
UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things.
Reply With Quote
  #8   (View Single Post)  
Old 10th August 2009
Oko's Avatar
Oko Oko is offline
Rc.conf Instructor
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kosovo, Serbia
Posts: 1,102
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carpetsmoker View Post
Yes, I'm using bsd.mp, this must be the problem then.
Does running bsd.sp affect performance a lot?
Actually there is no bsd.sp. There is only bsd and bsd.mp. You question has no good answer. OpenBSD still has a big giant lock and uses n:1 threading model. In plain English OpenBSD is not capable of scheduling system calls of single application on multiple processes and making use of them. Actually because of that MySQL will run faster on bsd than on bsd.mp. On another hand if you are running multiple applications bsd.mp will preform significantly better since they will be running on different processors.
So if you are editing multiple videos you should definitely use bsd.mp.
OpenBSD uses too much crypto and randomization to scale nearly as good as other BSDs and Linux. I do not think that a typical desktop user can notice that but if you are running large data base you should keep that in mind.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carpetsmoker View Post
There are FreeBSD 5 and FreeBSD 6 binaries for Opera ... (Not for Skype though ...)
Of course. I switched to OpenBSD from FreeBSD two years ago. Right around 6.1 so I should know at least that much.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Carpetsmoker View Post
As a sidenote, I really, really dislike Skype I only use it because some people I know will not use anything else Now I have to fire up a Windows machine every time I want to use it ... :-/
You do not have to make excuses for yourself. I completely understand. I actually played with a Skype to see if it can be make to work on OpenBSD exactly for that reason. Unfortunately Skype due to its firewall and NAT penetrating abilities is really wide spread VoIP application. I am a bit surprised by a number of people who use it to chat. I am having hard time to see what is wrong with IRC.

You mentioned that you mostly use chat not VoIP on Skype. If that is the case Skype works 100% rock solid on bsd kernel. I honestly have to admit that once in a while I use it to talk to my uncle back in Europe. My solution was to cut a copy of SLAX with only Skype module and to use it as a LiveCD.

I tried to use SLAX via Qemu so that I do not have even to use physical hardware. Unfortunately only one out of three audio drivers for Qemu supports full duplex mode and that one doesn't work on OpenBSD properly.
That was just not worth of hacking.

As a side note. Wine team and few OpenBSD guys have make really great progress towards getting latest Wine to run on OpenBSD. There are cod auditing reasons as well same security reasons that stirred interest of OpenBSD developers to port Wine. So we might be able to run Skype in Wine soon basically by accident.

Best Regards,
OKO

Last edited by Oko; 10th August 2009 at 06:11 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #9   (View Single Post)  
Old 10th August 2009
BSDfan666 BSDfan666 is offline
Real Name: N/A, this is the interweb.
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 2,223
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oko View Post
Actually there is no bsd.sp. There is only bsd and bsd.mp.
OpenBSD -CURRENT (..and 4.6?) installs bsd.mp on MP systems as /bsd, so it installs the uniprocessor kernel as /bsd.sp.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Skype-out calls disconnect after about 5 minutes lumiwa FreeBSD Ports and Packages 0 9th June 2009 12:56 PM
Skype not working in FreeBSD 7.1 nightcrawler FreeBSD Ports and Packages 9 14th April 2009 08:00 AM
Skype on FreeBSD 7.1 - works very slow.. DNAeon FreeBSD General 2 27th January 2009 11:48 AM
FreeBSD 7.0 + Skype problem daemonFromHeaven FreeBSD Ports and Packages 3 6th September 2008 11:23 AM
Skype and keyboard indicator greencross FreeBSD Ports and Packages 2 28th May 2008 08:31 AM


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:36 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content copyright © 2007-2010, the authors
Daemon image copyright ©1988, Marshall Kirk McKusick