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I may have to try Open then (*gasp!*). I have a few old sparc64 boxes that are laying fallow at the moment. One is a dual 500MHz box, with dual graphics cards. Other than its noise (loud!) it is a nice machine. FreeBSD support is OK, but not really that stellar.
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Unlike the other BSD projects, the sparc64 port is considered a primary platform.. many of the developers have one.. which accounts for the stellar performance that Oko is seeing.
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OpenBSD wins over both NetBSD & FreeBSD.
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Explain ...
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No kernel modules at all.
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I think among the three BSDs, the install process for each demonstrates what philosophy and deeper coding methods belong to each respective BSD.
FreeBSD -- Long ugly install process. Hated it! NetBSD -- In between FreeBSD and OpenBSD. Not as long and ugly as FreeBSD's install, but it does look prettier with, if I remember correctly green colors. Not bad. OpenBSD -- It's install process is the simplest of the three. When I first install OpenBSD as a joke as I was using FreeBSD at the time, I was hooked in the 7 minutes it took me to install it. Being relatively new to Unix, I do play around and screw things up, so I have to reinstall over and over again. OpenBSD let's you do this fast and learn a lot more faster than the other two. After about 5 - 10 reinstalls, you should have everything close to memorized. OpenBSD follows the philosophy Keep It Simple Stupid and works elegantly. I think OpenBSD is the best b/c it's power is in its simplicity. Oh! That's the Unix philosophy. Duh! No wonder it's the best even to a newbie like me who doesn't really know that much about Unix, but just seeing OpenBSD for what it was the first time I installed it, even an idiot should know OpenBSD rocks! |
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FreeBSD is a great Unix OS. Don't misunderstand what I'm saying. I didn't intend to belittle and depricate it in any way shape or form. It's just for me, OpenBSD is a greater Unix OS. I've tried different Linux distributions and liked them, I loved FreeBSD -- my first BSD, and NetBSD isn't all that bad either, but OpenBSD is just right for me. It has all the things I like to suit my personality.
I like their logo. I like the fact that you get stickers when you make a contribution to OpenBSD and a collectable case with the CD's. I like that it's on a CD, not a DVD. I like the artwork. I like that you can get posters and t-shirts with Puffy. It's just a personal choice, you might have different feeling, and that's ok with me. I learn unix much faster on OpenBSD than with any other Linux or BSD I've used before because of this and it's considered by some to be the most difficult BSD to learn. All the artwork and they way things are done (t-shirts, etc.) make learning OpenBSD fun, not mechanical and tiresome. That's all I'm sayin'. |
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FreeBSD knows the linux fans are coming to try FreeBSD and it was improving the desktop experience. You can use whatever OS you prefer, I use NetBSD as a desktop and I have all I need. Anyway, if I should recommend a BSD for desktop use I will recommend FreeBSD. About BSD are not distributions... The name says " Berkeley Software Distribution", not's saying flavour or somewhat. I understand why you prefer say flavour because you want separate BSD of Linux, and they must realize Linux is a kernel, so it's not a complete OS while BSD is a complete OS, but stay saying berkeley software distribution, so It's correct say it's a BSD distribution because it's the name they decided. Well, about linuxism in BSD, I guess of 3 main BSD: Net, Open and FreeBSD, the FreeBSD operating system is improving a lot of features for a desktop experience. Or at least, I guess FreeBSD has better experience with desktop. About mix all BSD, it will be interesting take the good features of all BSD like jails of freebsd and more, like the portability of NetBSD on all archs, and the "security" of openbsd, you have HardenedBSD, and the hammer of DragonflyBSD, and some drivers are missing on some BSD. But... seems more like an utopia I don't understand why others are saying you are an ignorant. All of us are ignorants on somewhat. We learn to teach others, not to blame |
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Are you saying he is an ignorant and talking with arrogance to him. There is no need for that. This is a forum and should be some rules, at least respect to others. And you're missing this respect, not only you. |
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Did you look at the dates of the posts in this thread? The last posts before yours were almost eight years ago. Responding to posters who have not been here in a few years is unlikely to generate rebutals.
But before I go: There is a difference between distributions of Linux and flavours of the BSD Distribution. (BSD is the distribution.) |
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Usually on most forums the off-topic section allows necropost. I'm not sure about here. http://daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=10 I saw nothing on rules about necropost, so maybe doesn't care, or there is info in other link I guess will be fine with both names, since really it will mean Net Berkeley Software Distribution, Free Berkeley Software Distribution, Open Berkeley Software Distribution. I can't understand why is incorrect say Distribution since theorically I can say: I'm using the Net Berkeley Software Distribution. And for some unix-like users is wrong if I say: I'm using the NetBSD distribution {or NetBSDistribution} I guess both are saying exactly the same The word Distribution in software means some packages arranged to make them work together/ Then, the word can apply for Linux and unix-like and maybe all OS or set of packages. Wikipedia says: A distribution, or distro, is a collection of software components built, assembled and configured so that it can be used essentially "as is" for its intended purpose. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_distribution Last edited by thedirtyvms; 3rd December 2017 at 02:58 PM. |
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NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD are different distributions of software and different OSes. They are a family of OSes, because they have the same ancestor.
Distributions of Gnu/Linux are the same OS, because they still follow upstream Linux kernel, GNU C library and so on. They have some patches, but these patches follow upstream projects and don't fork them. Debian, CentOS, Slackware - they are still following upstream Linux kernel.
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Regarding posters who are "no longer here", I've noticed their usernames show up with a red background. But what exactly does that mean? Are they banned? Did they cancel their accounts? Have they been inactive too long? Something else?
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