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How did you download the file ? http ot ftp ?
Maybe you should try to re-download the file, just to check that your file is not corrupted.
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Oh, ok, that makes sense, I know what happened now, I will try it again.
I think I thought it was finished down loading, and interupted it,...duhh! Edit: ahh, and Thanks ! Last edited by PapaParrot; 29th July 2015 at 08:30 PM. Reason: to say thanks |
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While this problem may have been an operational error and the output may have confused you, this give me an opportunity to insert some well-meaning, related advice about third party information and third party software.
Information Information about using OpenBSD you find on the Internet -- "how to" documents, blogs, and forums like this one -- are unofficial, and may contain information that is out-of-date, misleading, incomplete ... or wrong. You can learn from third party sources, but please remember that they may not be correct. If you have questions about the information you find outside of the Project, in-the-wild, the authors should be contacted directly. That includes here; this is an unofficial community of users who just try to help each other. Software The Ports/Packages system described in FAQ 15 is for third party software designed to be installed on OpenBSD. While the applications are not audited for security issues, the package creation steps allow each port to be tested to ensure security policies are adhered to during package creation, which includes a test installation. The Ports/Package infrastructure ensures that installation/deinstallation of packages proceed correctly, and that dependency chains are integrated. It is possible to find and use uncommitted ports -- there are many such posted to the ports@ mailing list and many can be found on development portals like github.com. But as they are ports designed for OpenBSD these can be tested for security policy issues during package creation. Installation and deinstallation of files can be properly managed. Dependencies can be properly tracked. Software you find in-the-wild, and that does not have an OpenBSD port written for it -- cannot participate in the Ports/Packages system. This is any software that is not installed by pkg_add(1) and removed by pkg_delete(1). Such software does not have the protections of installation and dependency management nor does it have any test against security policy violation during the build and fake installation step that package builds have. Last edited by jggimi; 29th July 2015 at 09:35 PM. Reason: clarified last paragraph. I can never just post and leave alone. |
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I've just looked at what I posted and realize that it might be considered a slam against shep and all his hard work. That was not my intent, I was just posting generally about third party info and data, and considerations for the astute admin. It was a divergence from the thread's intent, and for that, I apologize.
Shep's tarball includes graphic files, REAMDEs and provisioning files such as .xml. Yes, it's software and documentation. But it is designed to be used with OpenBSD packages, and does not contain directly executed scripts or binaries. |
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Thanks, though, even though I am aware of the 3rd party issues, risks, etc, I do appreciate
that you mention that, others might not realize that, and think just because it is on the forum means it is going to be use able, etc. I am not positive I completely understand this:, Quote:
--- Something seems to be going wrong when I downloaded it, I had downloaded while using openbsd and "netsurf", then when I encountered the error in unziping it, and asked here, I tried a second download, made sure the download was complete, but still the same error. So, I took a nap. Now, this time I downloaded it, but using Debian, and chromium browser, since I am pretty new to OpenBsd, and it is a very fresh install, I don't have anything besides what came with the install, and I successfully installed both "dillo" and "netsurf",.. Anyway, on the debian system, I am able to open the tar.gz file and view the contents, yes everything is there, including the readme file, (have not yet read it) , so anyway, it appears something else is causing it to not unzip correctly, on my OpenBsd machine, which by the way, is only on a VM, (virtual box), So any way : Quote:
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it is not unzipping correctly. anyway Thanks, from garry, p.s. Quote:
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I have debated putting the configuration files into user and root file sets so that they could be installed in the same manner as the installation file sets but felt that would diminish the learning experience.
For me, I use two xterms in the base fvwm window manager. $ less README in the first xterm and copy -> paste (after reviewing the commands) into the second xterm.@jggimi - No need to appologize - no one IMHO should trust what they find on the internet at face value. Look, at the code, understand the commands you are running. I also would appreciate any feedback on omissions, bugs unclear instructions etc. |
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I was speaking generally, and not about your experience with shep's guide. Absolutely, ask here about it. And you were right to bring the problem here. I wasn't sufficiently articulate, and I should have started a separate thread, because my post wasn't related to your problem ... just how you handled it, which I perceived to be perfectly correct. You returned to the source for assistance.
We get a lot of new users who search relentlessly for "how to" docs, for provisioning recommendations, for knobs to twist, and for scripts and shortcuts ... and that's to be expected. However, they often neglect to ask the source when something is confusing, doesn't work as expected, and come here or go to the Project mailing lists when they should be asking the author to update, revise or support .... and really, that's what the first part of my post was about. The second part was recommending that admins be mindful to inspect unofficial software before using it. And that may just be because there are a lot of software tools for Unix-like systems that recommend install by something like this: Code:
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Not sure what went wrong with the first downloads, maybe I should have just used the ftp, and not the browser, anyway, the one I downloaded using my debian hd, looked good, and I read the "README", I copied the "OpenBSD57_SimpleDE.tar.gz" entire, to my usbstick,
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Typo in the README
It is still installing packages, but coming along nicely.
I found a typo, in the readme, Line 140 (on my editor) Code:
$ cp ~/OpenBSD57_SimpleD57/SimpleDE57_local_configs/xsession ~/.xsession Had me confused there for a while, couldn't figure out why it was saying "cannot find file" and "does not exist" Bad news, for me though, now, it just reached a point installing the packages, and I should of checked that ahead of time, but all the package files would not fit, on the VM drive I made, so I need to make a bigger one, |
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