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Are you considering shopping hands-on? If so, install onto a USB stick and take it with you to the retailer. Ask them if they mind if you test boot your OS from USB.
SSD: see http://marc.info/?t=135573327100003&r=1&w=2 and other archived threads HDMI: see http://marc.info/?t=134652258500001&r=1&w=2 and other archived threads "Energy efficient" and "Powerful enough" are neither specifications nor metrics. |
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The OpenBSD developers have no arrangement with manufacturers allowing them to determine compatibility before release. The developers simply buy hardware just like the rest of us to see what works & what doesn't. Sometimes, members of the community will buy hardware for the developers either because the developers have requested specific items: http://www.openbsd.org/want.html ...or users want to see specific hardware supported faster, so they either loan hardware to developers, or simply buy it for them outright. If you are unable/unwilling to provide hardware, the solution is three-fold:
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My .02 addition to what have been said, USB live installation of 5.2 is probably the best bet. If for some reasons you're not going to follow that line, i'd like to say that desktops, compatibility wise, should be less of a hassle than laptops, and yet puffy plays well with alot of laptops imo. All depends on how new/free the components are. I won't be able to give a model number etc. as models as pointed out by OPs change quickly nowadays. So my advice is go with HP or Dell, then cross reference their spec sheets on their websites with http://openbsd.org/amd64.html that list is quiet extensive and upto date. More specifically I've been using SSDs with OpenBSD with no concern at all, I don't think you should worry that much about that, second for HDMI you have to either test, check the mailing list and avoid Nvidia. Again with the major brands online, the worst case scenario you can return with no hassle. Just avoid anything that's clearly unsupported, and stay clear of the very new graphic chipsets. I installed OpenBSD on a wide variety of computers, and for amd64 my personal experience tells me to go with whatever the major brands sell avoiding anything too new (say less than 6-9 months). Also on undeadly there was a talk of opening up the dmesg db or something along that line IIRC. I don't think Theo is ok with sharing the dmesgs afaik, but some people/vars do build/sell computers targeting OpenBSD, that could be very helpful for you if you dig around and peek at dmesgs. Let us know what you decide to buy afterall and how it goes.
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As long as we are tossing opinions around, I think the Key Issue is chipsets and most specifically the video chip. I feel I have a lot more control if I purchase the components and assemble them. When you buy a Dell or HP it is like getting a box of chocolates - you do not really know what you're gonna get.
It is incredibly easy and online guides on how to roll your own abound. The vast majority of the connections are polarized. I do not have a grounding cable but for as few as I put together - resting my naked foot on a furnace register gets rid of my surface charge I put a high priority on the power supply and case. I am still using a Lian Li case I bought in 2002. It has gone through 3 motherboards. I also saw a recent article on energy rated power supplies and if you are a heavy user the return on investment is less than a year. Where I tend to get burned is new connectors. The upgrade to a new Power supply was prompted by 24pin power connectors and SATA power connectors. I have several working AGP video cards gathering dust. If I were in your shoes I would look for a Radeon/AMD video card with the 4xxx chipset. I think some can be had with hdmi. I also recommend Newegg to do your hardware searches as it allows selection by chipset and features. For example, for a video card you can select an AMD/Radon, then 2400XT, then the slot (PCIe -2.0) then the amount of card memory, the connectors (vga, dvi or hdmi) and finally the manufacturer. I hesitate to recommend them as vendor although I generally have had good luck. I will not buy refurbed mother boards from them (never come with the heat shield) Last edited by shep; 18th December 2012 at 02:29 AM. |
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Although it is a good thing to stimulate the economy by getting a new Desktop computer, you also could download and install the latest OpenBSD current snapshot.
OBSD 5.2 has been released the first of November, but actually is from end of July, beginning of August: Code:
-rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 84196 Aug 01 16:10 INSTALL.amd64 -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 1720 Aug 01 16:11 SHA256 -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 61387977 Aug 01 16:11 base52.tgz -rwxr-xr-x 1 500 450 9060353 Aug 01 16:10 bsd -rwxr-xr-x 1 500 450 9088176 Aug 01 16:10 bsd.mp -rwxr-xr-x 1 500 450 7311395 Aug 01 16:10 bsd.rd -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 7432192 Aug 01 16:10 cd52.iso -r-xr-xr-x 1 500 450 45492 Aug 01 16:10 cdboot -r-xr-xr-x 1 500 450 2048 Aug 01 16:10 cdbr -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 69025652 Aug 01 16:10 comp52.tgz -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 531648 Aug 01 16:10 etc52.tgz -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 1474560 Aug 01 16:10 floppy52.fs -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 2710461 Aug 01 16:10 game52.tgz -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 1339 Dec 17 11:07 index.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 252758016 Aug 01 16:10 install52.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 9724820 Aug 01 16:10 man52.tgz -r-xr-xr-x 1 500 450 55264 Aug 01 16:11 pxeboot -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 12434993 Jul 23 10:11 xbase52.tgz -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 63893 Jul 23 10:11 xetc52.tgz -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 39803297 Jul 23 10:11 xfont52.tgz -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 26774217 Jul 23 10:11 xserv52.tgz -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 4619848 Jul 23 10:11 xshare52.tgz Code:
-rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 84404 Dec 13 09:21 INSTALL.amd64 -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 1720 Dec 13 09:21 SHA256 -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 63056088 Dec 13 09:21 base52.tgz -rwxr-xr-x 1 500 450 9196320 Dec 13 09:21 bsd -rwxr-xr-x 1 500 450 9224220 Dec 13 09:21 bsd.mp -rwxr-xr-x 1 500 450 7393098 Dec 13 09:21 bsd.rd -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 7534592 Dec 13 09:21 cd52.iso -r-xr-xr-x 1 500 450 69108 Dec 13 09:21 cdboot -r-xr-xr-x 1 500 450 2048 Dec 13 09:21 cdbr -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 51772044 Dec 13 09:21 comp52.tgz -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 523250 Dec 13 09:21 etc52.tgz -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 1474560 Dec 13 09:21 floppy52.fs -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 2780792 Dec 13 09:21 game52.tgz -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 1339 Dec 17 11:07 index.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 237805568 Dec 13 09:21 install52.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 9731662 Dec 13 09:21 man52.tgz -r-xr-xr-x 1 500 450 78860 Dec 13 09:21 pxeboot -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 11507609 Dec 04 21:43 xbase52.tgz -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 64027 Dec 04 21:43 xetc52.tgz -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 39803161 Dec 04 21:43 xfont52.tgz -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 28179210 Dec 04 21:43 xserv52.tgz -rw-r--r-- 1 500 450 4329565 Dec 04 21:43 xshare52.tgz
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