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Do you think there's any truth to this?
https://www.csoonline.com/article/32...-think-so.html
https://bsd.slashdot.org/story/18/01...chers-think-so I care very little for Linux--in any incarnation in which it is available. But epistemologically Ilja's opinion makes sense. I hate to think of the day OpenBSD might not be as actively and professionally developed as it is currently but the numbers paint an alarming trend that might see Ilja's prediction come to fruition. What do the developers and/or foundation committee members say or think about the fate of OpenBSD? |
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This meme has been around for a long time now:
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/BSD_is_Dying It may be worth noting that NetFlix use FreeBSD for their servers and they boast of performance that exceeds anything Linux can manage. The donations page for OpenBSD state that the project received $376,000 in 2017 — does that sound "dead" to you? http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/activities.html
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OpenBSD community is quite actively doing great job. It doesn't seem for me like dead OS.
One thing is true: More people is looking at Linux code. On the other hand security is complicated matter. The less people and companies use the OS, the less interest Internet criminals have to find vulnerabilities and write exploits. OpenBSD actively is fixing reported bugs. OpenBSD has some security mitigations such as W^X enabled by default. OpenBSD has some great security mechanisms such as pledge and uses them to create daemons with carefully designed privilege-separation to accomplish principle of least privilege.
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Yes, quantity has a quality all its own...
...but whose eyes are looking is important.
Many, MANY people are looking at Linux code. But what are they looking *for*? Linus says that security bugs are just another kind of bug. Theo thinks they are the most important kind. Does anybody think that Linux developers are looking as hard for security bugs as OpenBSD developers do? Or as likely to drop what they were doing to fix *security* bugs when found? Supporting that new nVidia adapter is important, too. I use Linux when I'm paid to. But when that goes away for me, I will bid Linux adieu. |
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Wishful thinking from Linux zealots. It is always amusing when Redhat or Oracle come in to my place of work to marvel about the “new” features they’re getting; features that existed in AIX and Solaris for 10-20 years.
Plan 9 has always been extremely secure and fewer eyes than any UNIX or variant. |
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The last ~5 years of donations looks promising; however, when you consider that one company is responsible for ~50% of the funding, it could mean that things are more volatile than it appears. 2017 = $376k 2016 = $573k ($280k from Smartisan alone) 2015 = $256k 2014 = $397k 2013 = $30,949k 2012 = $19,851k [0] https://bsd.slashdot.org/comments.pl...9&cid=56012685 Quote:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Better...w_of_headlines
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I recently changed my desktop PC to OpenBSD to try it out. I liked it enough to start changing most of my other systems. I still have a couple of dedicated audio workstations running Debian as I need realtime privileges and ALSA drivers. That may change if systemd avoidance becomes too painful (FreeBSD and Dragonfly look promising, but I'd have to learn to write BSD drivers). I know of quite a few long-term Linux users who have switched (or are thinking about switching) to *BSD. Those articles about the supposedly imminent death of *BSD don't tally with my own observations. |
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I don't think everything Ilja van Sprundel said is false. He is a professional pentester who looked at source code and found bugs. He said a lot of bugs were low hanging fruits and I can believe that general opinion has some merit.
A the same time I don't think he is competent enough to predict future of *BSD OSes. For example many think that being out of commercial enterprise market is the death of OS. OpenBSD is probably generally out of that market, but... so what? OpenBSD is now introducing oneself as research project and development continues
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