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Although once in a billion, you might find some juicy content, somehow I doubt anyone is gonna miss anything on GeoCities.
I remember it well, for the number of unmaintained and often fugly sites hosted.
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That is funny, I never knew it was possible to know "TOO MUCH".
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Interesting. I run OpenBSD exclusively at home -- both for desktop use & otherwise. It is an improvement over past choices. It is a great alternative for those who are willing to delve into the manpages & other documentation. It's time well spent in my opinion.
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I've always loved the argument "you have to know too much." It's pretty much synonymous of "I'm too lazy/can't be bothered to learn."
Do you have any idea how much you have to know to have a commanding use of the English language. Vocabulary, grammar, obscenities... it's a staggering amount of information. Granted some people aren't masters of the literate arts and most of it is passively learned but just look at the work involved in learning it as a second language (any language is applicable here, particularly if it comes from a different language tree than your native.) Just sayin'. My FreeBSD is weak, and my Russian professors can speak better English than me because I am a lazy SOB. |
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In a similar vein, in the US, to get a driver's license, one has to learn the rules of the road, how to read road signs, and practice to pass a driving test. To get a CDL (Commercial Driver's License), you have to learn all of the above, but also how to diagnose engine trouble, service your vehicle, how to drive when hauling certain cargo, where you can and cannot drive due to restrictions on certain classes of cargo, who to contact and when for escorts through the various states, counties and municipalities, etc.. One could argue that "you have to know too much " to acquire a CDL. And that would be correct if all you need or want to do is to drop your kids off at school; however, if you need to haul a wind turbine blade across the country, then you need a CDL. Bottom line, I wouldn't necessarily write it off as laziness or deliberate ignorance, but rather opting for another solution.
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The BSD systems are not Intuitivive and not graphically helped (wizarded). And they are mostly for peoples who are Pro. And at some machines like mine Toshiba Notebook P25-S487 FreeBSD requires special or custom kernel compilation , otherwise it doesn't installs. Nick |
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Gents, take it outside.
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and you demonstrate very little knowledge of computers.
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I would recommend to you to put time into reading the documentation & try installing again. Post specific information & questions into the appropriate installation subsection. You may be surprised at what help you can get when informed & concise questions are asked. Yes, it may take time, but you may learn a lot from the effort. I would also recommend you read the following thread: http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=596 ...as it helps frame how effective questions can be asked. It is easy to fall into the trap of vague generalizations which cannot be substantiated. The real problem is that nothing gets done when in this hole. |
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Not about computers.I have desktop pc and laptop since 2000 and 2003. Nick |
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Sendmail (OpenSMTPd soon instead) is configured on OpenBSD. You do not need to do anything. Just type mail e-mail@address.of.your.friend and you will be able to send the e-mail. The problem is that such an e-mail will be usually bounced because you do not have fixed IP address, reverse DNS and the proper MX record. It is not true that you can send an e-mail on Windows machine without configuring smtp. You have to specify forwarding smtp server of your Internet service provider or third party (Gmail, Hotmail). Well guess what configuring Thunderbird on Windows machine is exactly the same as configuring Thunderbird on OpenBSD. Last time I checked Thunderbird can fetch emails from both POP and IMAP accounts. You have to configure them on Windows, OpenBSD, or any other platform. The same goes for all other e-mail client. If you do not want to configure anything you have to use web-interface to check your e-mail. Cheers, OKO Last edited by J65nko; 11th March 2010 at 01:27 AM. Reason: changed '/quote]' into '[/quote]' |
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I find Windows's wizardedly installer too confusing and slow, and annoys the crap out of you. So I prefer the OpenBSD installer where it just ask you a few questions and you are up and running, no need to bother with serial number and activation and bogus "Windows Genuine Advantage" and "Windows Activation Technology" annoyance and countless un-patched zero day system exploits.
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For what it's worth, I believe that people's resistance to OpenBSD (or any other *nix-type OS) is not that it is too hard or requires "TOO MUCH to know," but rather that it is different from what they are used to using. It takes anyone a long time to learn "how to use a computer." Once they know that OS (which 95% of the time is Windows) and applications, they want to compare anything else to what they already know. (Hence the resistance to Windows Vista.) Oko, I don't see where we disagree. Anyway, enough rambling.
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Finally back to topic.... hehe :-)
Pass the brains please.
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http://www.diskeeper.com/Diskeeper/premier/premier.aspx
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That morality is based on perception and reason acting upon each other rather than against
determines an action as being right. Let's say that my reason for an action is unselfish and your perception is of it being as such, then the action can be considered as moral between the both of us. If my action is unselfish and you perceive it as such then we agree the action is immoral. In the event that my action is unselfish and your perception differs, you will see the action as immoral. And such if the reason is selfish and your perception is the opposite, then you view it as moral. Society and conditioning of the individual whether through immediate culture or events shapes a person's basic understanding of right and wrong, creating many exceptions to the postulations above. How then can we measure morality? You cannot, it is individualistic. |
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