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Soekris experiences
I'm considering buying a Soekris machine, my Pentium 1 OpenBSD firewall/router is crashing every 2-3 days because of a bad hard disk, something like a Soekris net4501 seems to be a good replacement, small, cheap, reliable, and only 10 watt.
Does anyone have any experiences with Soekris machines? OpenBSD support shouldn't be a problem, there is even a soekris reseller specialized in OpenBSD (http://www.kd85.com/), but is the hardware of good quality? It is a "critical" machine for me, so reliability is important, Basically I want to install this machine and not look at it for at least 10 years...
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hey man that's COOL!!!
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I believe Asemi over at BSDNexus has one. There was a long thread over there about that a year or so back. You might check there.
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Yeah, I know, it is in fact asem's broken (?) soekris box which made me post this message, to see if it's an isolated incident or not...
I'll look up the thread at BSDNexus ... Thank you
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I've just replaced my old P3 firewall with a new Soekris Net5501-70. I went this route because I wanted something smaller and needed to replace an old desktop PC with not only bad drives, but also a bad (and loud!) fan.
Soekris is discontinuing the older models, the new faster 5501 is very well supported by OpenBSD 4.3. It's actually overkill for a home firewall. KD85 is definitely the way to go if you're in Europe, or want a rackmount chassis, burn-in, and support. |
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I am planning to buy an Alix board from PCengines in Switzerland. See http://pcengines.ch/alix2c0.htm
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I was looking at one of these the other day to set up as either a m0n0wall or pfSense system. I have pfSense running right now on and old P2/450 desktop, however I'd like to cut down on the noise a bit (this particular system has a rather loud 10gb hard drive). Let me know how your experience goes (if you decide to purchase)
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I'm using a 4801 with OpenBSD as a home firewall and its runs lovely. Use it like a shell server for myself and for two other friends and have no problems. Even torrent off it and never have much performance problems.
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I have this here at our office
http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=10909 Its running FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE pretty nicely. The only trouble so far was a watchdog timeout on the re0 card I had pfsense on it but it kept crashing on me, since I went to a full blown FreeBSD I no longer have any sudden crashes. Here is what I'm doing with it Its load balancing two pppoe adsl connections using mpd5 and pf one wlan and lan that is bridged secondary internal dns dhcp server |
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draws about 20 watts... The board and 1 GIG of memory cost me less than 100 USD. It works great but I am having problems finding another one in the US.. Using an LSI MegaRAID with 250GB RAID1 Duties: 3 -Virtual Domains (not much traffic) 1 -Firewall 1 - DHCP Server dmesg Code:
OpenBSD 4.2-stable (GENERIC) #3: Fri May 9 09:39:42 CDT 2008 root@<domain-removed>:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: VIA Esther processor 1500MHz ("CentaurHauls" 686-class) 1.50 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,TM,SBF,SSE3 cpu0: RNG AES AES-CTR SHA1 SHA256 RSA real mem = 1055420416 (1006MB) avail mem = 1012871168 (965MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 09/26/06, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf9ee0, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0000 (33 entries) bios0: vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD version "6.00 PG" date 09/26/2006 bios0: IDOT ID-PCM7E PC2500 apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown apm0: flags 70102 dobusy 1 doidle 1 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf0000/0xd1a4 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfd110/144 (7 entries) pcibios0: bad IRQ table checksum pcibios0: PCI BIOS has 7 Interrupt Routing table entries pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 5 10 11 pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:17:0 ("VIA VT8237 ISA" rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc0000/0xfe00 0xd0000/0x8000! 0xd8000/0x2600 0xdb000/0x1000 cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "VIA CN700 Host" rev 0x00 pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 "VIA CN700 Host" rev 0x00 pchb2 at pci0 dev 0 function 2 "VIA CN700 Host" rev 0x00 pchb3 at pci0 dev 0 function 3 "VIA PT890 Host" rev 0x00 pchb4 at pci0 dev 0 function 4 "VIA CN700 Host" rev 0x00 pchb5 at pci0 dev 0 function 7 "VIA CN700 Host" rev 0x00 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "VIA VT8377 AGP" rev 0x00 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "VIA S3 Unichrome PRO IGP" rev 0x01: aperture at 0xf4000000, size 0x10000000 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) ami0 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 "Symbios Logic MegaRAID" rev 0x01: irq 10 ami0: LSI 523, 32b, FW 713S, BIOS vG121, 64MB RAM ami0: 1 channels, 0 FC loops, 1 logical drives scsibus0 at ami0: 40 targets sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: <AMI, Host drive #00, > SCSI2 0/direct fixed sd0: 238470MB, 30400 cyl, 255 head, 63 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 488386560 sec total scsibus1 at ami0: 16 targets em0 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000GT (82541GI)" rev 0x05: irq 11, address 00:0e:0c:c6:58:50 pciide0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 "VIA VT6420 SATA" rev 0x80: DMA pciide0: using irq 11 for native-PCI interrupt pciide1 at pci0 dev 15 function 1 "VIA VT82C571 IDE" rev 0x06: ATA133, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility pciide1: channel 0 disabled (no drives) pciide1: channel 1 disabled (no drives) uhci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 "VIA VT83C572 USB" rev 0x81: irq 10 uhci1 at pci0 dev 16 function 1 "VIA VT83C572 USB" rev 0x81: irq 10 uhci2 at pci0 dev 16 function 2 "VIA VT83C572 USB" rev 0x81: irq 11 uhci3 at pci0 dev 16 function 3 "VIA VT83C572 USB" rev 0x81: irq 11 ehci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 4 "VIA VT6202 USB" rev 0x86: irq 5 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0: VIA EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 viapm0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 "VIA VT8237 ISA" rev 0x00 iic0 at viapm0 vr0 at pci0 dev 18 function 0 "VIA RhineII-2" rev 0x78: irq 10, address 00:1b:b9:6c:d7:45 ukphy0 at vr0 phy 1: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface, rev. 10: OUI 0x004063, model 0x0032 usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 usb4 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0 uhub4 at usb4: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 isa0 at mainbus0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: <PC speaker> spkr0 at pcppi0 it0 at isa0 port 0x290/8: IT87 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16 pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 biomask ffed netmask ffed ttymask ffef pctr: user-level cycle counter enabled dkcsum: sd0 matches BIOS drive 0x80 root on sd0a swap on sd0b dump on sd0b Last edited by roundkat; 15th May 2008 at 02:51 PM. |
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For me soekris ws to expensive. Years ago I bought a PC-Engines Wrap.1E-2.
OpenBSD standard install and everything works well. J65nko: I read about problems with the Alix BIOS and DMA. If you don't have a DMA supported CF oder Microdrive it doesn't matter Has anyone tried to boot a system from HD on Alix? |
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- 1 Soekris 4801 with OpenBSD (2 years old) no Problems
- 4 Wrap1e202 with OpenBSD (1 year old) PXE Boot Problem is solved after BIOS Update - 1 Alix2c3 with OpenBSD (5 month old) no Problems |
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I just bought this from netgate:
1 x Netgate m1n1wall firewall 2E 2C2 (black) with USB (Netgate m1n1wall 2C2 black) = $195.00 Pre-loaded Software pfSense I bought it yesterday with 2 day shipping so hopefully it'll be here tomorrow (but I won't hold my breath). I'll be using it to replace an HP Vectra P2-450 with a loud 10GB HD. That's the only way I could justify to my wife spending $200 on a device so small.
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I've got a Soekris 4501 that's been in active use for about 4 years without a single problem (very rarely needs so much as a reboot). I've also got a WRAP and Alix board from pcengines.ch that both work wonderfully. This is with FreeBSD mind you, but I don't believe OpenBSD is much different on the same hardware.
All in all, I highly recommend the Soekris and PCEngines boards, not a complaint yet! |
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Running a 4801 now for more then three years and i'm quite happy with the box.
The only failure was a smoking power supply that was replaced with a bigger one. The box was extendet with a 40GB HD, and the vpn1411 mini pci card (no issues since OpenBSD 4.2) In the near future i will add a 5501-70 since the 4801 is a little under powerd for the services running on it. OS: OpenBSD 4.2 pf, spamd, postfix, dovcot, fetchmail, mailmain, squid, two apache services (one at the public interface chrooted and one at the internal interface), plus some additional monitoring |
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Soekris net5501 for a avid Opensource User and A+ compugter technichian?
I have been looking for A good BSD based router/firewall for a couple of years now. would the soekris net 5501 fit m the needs of a A+ computer repair person / Open source Addict such as my self
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