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Old 24th June 2008
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Hi all, i'm neubie here, so please forgive me for my stupid question. I would like to ask :

1. when i install freebsd 7.0 on my laptop acer 5583 nwxmi when i type halt -p it's only shutdown the system, not like in my pc it shutdown completely is this normal ?
2. i use wi fi alot on my laptop, my wifi is intel pro 3945 and freebsd 7.0 seems not detected it at all. Where can i get the driver ?
3. i use marvell yukon ethernet 88e8030 in my laptop and i have download the driver from marvell.com the package is "installbsd70x86v10.51.2.3.tar.gz" how i install it ?
is copying if_myk.ko to /boot/kernel make it works ?
4. i need pspp 0.6.0 for my last work before i graduate but i see only pspp 04.0_1 on freebsd port can you help me

thanks, it feel better now
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1. when i install freebsd 7.0 on my laptop acer 5583 nwxmi when i type halt -p it's only shutdown the system, not like in my pc it shutdown completely is this normal ?
halt -p should powerdown your computer, unfortunately this doesn't work for all mainboards because of ACPI differences/perks.

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2. i use wi fi alot on my laptop, my wifi is intel pro 3945 and freebsd 7.0 seems not detected it at all. Where can i get the driver ?
Yes, the wpi(4) driver, which is included in FreeBSD.

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3. i use marvell yukon ethernet 88e8030 in my laptop and i have download the driver from marvell.com the package is "installbsd70x86v10.51.2.3.tar.gz" how i install it ?
Doesn't the msk(3) driver (Again, included with FreeBSD) work?

In any case, you can extract this archive with:
% tar xf installbsd70x86v10.51.2.3.tar.gz

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4. i need pspp 0.6.0 for my last work before i graduate but i see only pspp 04.0_1 on freebsd port can you help me
math/pspp is at version 0.6.0, you probably have an out-of-date portstree.
See chapter 4.5.1 of the FreeBSD handbook for instructions on how to update your ports tree.
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thanks, for the answer.
oh yeah, about the acpi problem, can it to be fixed ?

the wpi is not detected it at all, and the msk is not detect it too...
what should i do?

oh yeah, the texas card reader how can i make it work?

do you have any experience with fvwm? Where can i read the documentation beside in the official sites because it,s confusing for ex windozer like me.


thanks again

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the wpi is not detected it at all, and the msk is not detect it too...
what should i do?
post output of % pciconf -lv
post output of % dmesg

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do you have any experience with fvwm? Where can i read the documentation beside in the official sites because it,s confusing for ex windozer like me.
All usefull documentation is provided in fvwm(1) manul page,
if you are interested in something special there is offical fvwm forum. (but feel free to PM me - I'm fvwm fan)
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I personally find the http://fvwm.org/doc/unstable/index.h... documentation and the manual pages for the flibin' virtual window manger the best resource -- gorking at it untill it makes sense or your head explodes (which probably requires both to do really awesome things).

Creating the basic configuration file through the menu will yield a fairly basic but "as expected" enough configuration but a personalized setup is better fvwm is very much a build it your way frame work imho.


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fvwm-devel / 2.5 is stable enough for typical usage
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thanks guys for your concern but i must study for my final task review on monday (darn i hate monday...).
i'll send dmesg and pciconf -lv later

well wish me luck....
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hey guys, i,m coming with dmesg and pciconf -lv you've asked
oh yes i take this dmesg and pciconf -lv on fresh installed pcbsd 1.5 on my laptop acer aspire 5583 nwxmi. here we go :

dmesg:
Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 #7: Thu Apr 17 11:21:34 EDT 2008
root@pcbsd:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PCBSD
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5500 @ 1.66GHz (1666.80-MHz 686-class CPU)
Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6f6 Stepping = 6
Features=0xbfebfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE ,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH, DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE>
Features2=0xe39d<SSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,EST,TM2,SSS E3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM>
AMD Features=0x20100000<NX,LM>
AMD Features2=0x1<LAHF>
Cores per package: 2
real memory = 526974976 (502 MB)
avail memory = 501862400 (478 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: <INTEL CALISTGA>
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0
cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1
ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 1
ioapic0 <Version 2.0> irqs 0-23 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)
acpi0: <PTLTD XSDT> on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
unknown: I/O range not supported
Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900
Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0
acpi_ec0: <Embedded Controller: GPE 0x17> port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0
cpu0: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
acpi_throttle0: <ACPI CPU Throttling> on cpu0
cpu1: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
acpi_throttle1: <ACPI CPU Throttling> on cpu1
acpi_throttle1: failed to attach P_CNT
device_attach: acpi_throttle1 attach returned 6
pcib0: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib0
agp0: <Intel 82945GM (945GM GMCH) SVGA controller> port 0x1800-0x1807 mem 0xd0300000-0xd037ffff,0xc0000000-0xcfffffff,0xd0400000-0xd043ffff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0
agp0: detected 7932k stolen memory
agp0: aperture size is 256M
pci0: <display> at device 2.1 (no driver attached)
pci0: <multimedia> at device 27.0 (no driver attached)
pcib1: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0
pci2: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib1
pci2: <network, ethernet> at device 0.0 (no driver attached)
pcib2: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 17 at device 28.1 on pci0
pci3: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib2
pci3: <network> at device 0.0 (no driver attached)
pcib3: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 18 at device 28.2 on pci0
pci4: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib3
uhci0: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> port 0x1820-0x183f irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0
uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb0: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> port 0x1840-0x185f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0
uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb1: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> port 0x1860-0x187f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0
uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb2: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> on uhci2
usb2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci3: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> port 0x1880-0x189f irq 16 at device 29.3 on pci0
uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb3: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> on uhci3
usb3: USB revision 1.0
uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ehci0: <Intel 82801GB/R (ICH7) USB 2.0 controller> mem 0xd0644000-0xd06443ff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0
ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb4: EHCI version 1.0
usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3
usb4: <Intel 82801GB/R (ICH7) USB 2.0 controller> on ehci0
usb4: USB revision 2.0
uhub4: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered
ugen0: OEM Camera, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2
pcib4: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 30.0 on pci0
pci10: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib4
cbb0: <PCI-CardBus Bridge> mem 0xd0204000-0xd0204fff irq 20 at device 9.0 on pci10
cardbus0: <CardBus bus> on cbb0
pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0
pci10: <mass storage> at device 9.2 (no driver attached)
isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
atapci0: <Intel ICH7M SATA300 controller> port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x18b0-0x18bf at device 31.2 on pci0
ata0: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
ata1: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0
pci0: <serial bus, SMBus> at device 31.3 (no driver attached)
acpi_acad0: <AC Adapter> on acpi0
battery0: <ACPI Control Method Battery> on acpi0
acpi_lid0: <Control Method Lid Switch> on acpi0
acpi_button0: <Power Button> on acpi0
acpi_button1: <Sleep Button> on acpi0
acpi_tz0: <Thermal Zone> on acpi0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> flags 0x1000 irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
pmtimer0 on isa0
orm0: <ISA Option ROMs> at iomem 0xcf000-0xcffff,0xdf800-0xdffff on isa0
ppc0: parallel port not found.
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0: port may not be enabled
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 8250 or not responding
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
ad0: 76319MB <Hitachi HTS541680J9SA00 SB2OC70P> at ata0-master SATA150
acd0: DVDR <Optiarc DVD RW AD-7530A/EX31> at ata1-master UDMA33
acd0: FAILURE - INQUIRY ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00
acd0: FAILURE - INQUIRY ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
cd0 at ata1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
cd0: <Optiarc DVD RW AD-7530A EX31> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device
cd0: 33.000MB/s transfers
cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present - tray closed
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
ppc0: parallel port not found.
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
ppc0: parallel port not found.
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
ppc0: parallel port not found.
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
ppc0: parallel port not found.
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
pcm0: <Intel 82801G High Definition Audio Controller> mem 0xd0440000-0xd0443fff irq 22 at device 27.0 on pci0
pcm0: <HDA Codec: Realtek ALC883>
pcm0: <HDA Driver Revision: 20071129_0050>
ppc0: parallel port not found.
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
ppc0: parallel port not found.
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
ppc0: parallel port not found.
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
drmsub0: <Intel i945GM>: (child of agp_i810.c) on agp0
info: [drm] AGP at 0xd0300000 0MB
info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.5.0 20060119

pciconf -lc :
hostb0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27a08086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '955XM/945GM/PM/GMS/940GML Express Processor to DRAM Controller'
class = bridge
subclass = HOST-PCI
agp0@pci0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27a28086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = 'Mobile 945GM/GU Express Integrated Graphics Controller'
class = display
subclass = VGA
none0@pci0:2:1: class=0x038000 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27a68086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = 'Mobile 945GM/GU Express Integrated Graphics Controller'
class = display
pcm0@pci0:27:0: class=0x040300 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27d88086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio'
class = multimedia
pcib1@pci0:28:0: class=0x060400 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27d08086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) PCIe Root Port'
class = bridge
subclass = PCI-PCI
pcib2@pci0:28:1: class=0x060400 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27d28086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) PCIe Root Port'
class = bridge
subclass = PCI-PCI
pcib3@pci0:28:2: class=0x060400 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27d48086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) PCIe Root Port'
class = bridge
subclass = PCI-PCI
uhci0@pci0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27c88086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller'
class = serial bus
subclass = USB
uhci1@pci0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27c98086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller'
class = serial bus
subclass = USB
uhci2@pci0:29:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27ca8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller'
class = serial bus
subclass = USB
uhci3@pci0:29:3: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27cb8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) USB Universal Host Controller'
class = serial bus
subclass = USB
ehci0@pci0:29:7: class=0x0c0320 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27cc8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller'
class = serial bus
subclass = USB
pcib4@pci0:30:0: class=0x060401 card=0x01101025 chip=0x24488086 rev=0xe2 hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801BAM/CAM/DBM (ICH2-M/3-M/4-M) Hub Interface to PCI Bridge'
class = bridge
subclass = PCI-PCI
isab0@pci0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27b98086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Controller'
class = bridge
subclass = PCI-ISA
atapci0@pci0:31:2: class=0x010180 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27c48086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801GBM/GHM (ICH7-M Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller'
class = mass storage
subclass = ATA
none1@pci0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27da8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller'
class = serial bus
subclass = SMBus
none2@pci2:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x01101025 chip=0x435211ab rev=0x14 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Marvell Semiconductor (Was: Galileo Technology Ltd)'
device = 'Yukon 88E8038 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller'
class = network
subclass = ethernet
none3@pci3:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x10008086 chip=0x42228086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '10418086 Intel 3945ABG Wireless LAN controller'
class = network
cbb0@pci10:9:0: class=0x060700 card=0x01101025 chip=0x8039104c rev=0x00 hdr=0x02
vendor = 'Texas Instruments (TI)'
device = 'PCIxx12 Cardbus Controller'
class = bridge
subclass = PCI-CardBus
none4@pci10:9:2: class=0x018000 card=0x01101025 chip=0x803b104c rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Texas Instruments (TI)'
device = 'PCIxx12 Integrated Flash Media Controller'
class = mass storage

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You'll need Freebsd 7.0 to use those devices.
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well, hi all i'm i confuion now i read several articles about freebsd and i want to ask :
1. is emulating other os make that os superior against the other (example: window can emulate freebsd and freebsd can't)?
2. what should i do first postinstallation compile the kernel or install desktop environment and prepackaged software?
3. is there any simple to understand how tos like mounting flashdisk automatically from any user, , monting cd withouth terminal, setting xdm or kdm, etc... ?

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1. is emulating other os make that os superior against the other (example: window can emulate freebsd and freebsd can't)?
My babelfish seems to be unable to translate this to English.

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2. what should i do first postinstallation compile the kernel or install desktop environment and prepackaged software?
The order doesn't matter, but you probably don't want to compile a kernel in the first place, it had no performance/stability benefits, and only takes up time...

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3. is there any simple to understand how tos like mounting flashdisk automatically from any user, , monting cd withouth terminal, setting xdm or kdm, etc... ?
http://www.freebsdforums.org/forums/...ad.php?t=47864
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO...ER-FLOPPYMOUNT
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The only reason to compile a custom kernel these days are:

0/ you want or need something that needs adjustments to the kernel configuration build -> the handbook explains how to build a custom kernel.

1/ you want/need to build a custom kernel with support for one of your devices that lacks support for building/using the driver as a Loadable Kernel Module (LKM).

2/ Your computer has so little resources that you need a bare bones kernel -> unlikely unless your installing to a Toaster Oven or some other embedded job.

3/ You want to recompile the kernel for your arch. E.g. FreeBSDs x86 kernel uses 'cpu I486_CPU' as the lowest common demoninator, most consumer PCs are i686 based or better.
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so, the conclusion is :
1. emulating other os don't make that os more superior than other os
2. i need a stable environment to make a custom kernel
3. i don't need to make custom kernel if i don't need it, right? but i need it to activate wpi kernel like Martin Turmoij says and msk too,right? so do i need to delete unescessary device recognition example: i dont have realtek netcard do i have to delete it? how could we now the one needto delete and the one that not need to?
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'emulating other os'

can mean many things when people are not sure of what you mean.


For me, it means simulating the look, feel, behavior, and design of another operating system -> for example GNU/Linux are made to resemble UNIX.


For you it could mean running an operating system within an emulator, which has jack-shit to do with operating system superiority -> it is to do with emulator superiority ^_^

For some it might mean things like the support for FreeBSD, Linux and Windows ABIs.




If you need to build a custom kernel to get the wpi driver working, you'll need to -> someone here might know if there is a lkm option or not.


FreeBSD 7s GENERIC kernel configuration has the msk driver compiled in.


It is no problem to remove devices from the kernel config that you don't need when building a custom kernel, just remember you may have to recompile the kernel if you ever get one of thoe devices.
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hi guys,
i've just messin around with my college computer, i've just installing freebsd 7 into one of it, dual boot with windoz. when i type startx x wasn't show, just message that i failed to make configuration file.
how can i solve this?

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Old 16th July 2008
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yes, i've tried to type x -config or x --config to make a configuration file and there is a message like this :
there is no such file or directory. i'm sure i've installed x with the distribution.
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Unix is case sensitive garfield270584:

% X -configure
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% xorgconfig
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oh yes, today i finished installing freebsd 7 on my laptop and kade too. my question:
1. msk is compiled in but i cannot configure network via kde. what i missing ?
2. how can i set the battery control i mean power management in kde ?
3. about the x that error in my school i plugout network cable before reboot and i type startx and it works.... what happend?
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1. msk is compiled in but i cannot configure network via kde. what i missing ?
You mean the msk(4) driver?
Does the interface show up when you enter the command:
% ifconfig

If so, then try using dhcp:
# dhclient msk0

Of for a static address:
# ifconfig msk0 192.168.100.10 netmask 255.255.255.0

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3. about the x that error in my school i plugout network cable before reboot and i type startx and it works.... what happend?
Try using 1 xinit instead of startx.
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1. i've tried ifconfig and there is no marvell interface. what's the problem?
2. oh yeah, i'm going to repair my school computer tomorrow cause it cannot open freebsd slice at all maybe something is wrong when i install freebsd into it.
3. i read a zfs thread from this forum too and i've tried it, it works :
1. is there any risk if i do that step? what is the risk ?
2. what the benefit of zfs truly ?
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