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Old 15th September 2014
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I am paranoid about security and that's one of the reasons I am using BSD.

I am quite new to BSD and PCBSD is quite user friendly. I have installed and

used FreeBSD in the past but I found that the kind of deliberate privilege

escalations I was doing for making it usable for day to day desktop usage

was making it an equivalent of PCBSD.

I want to try OpenBSD but I guess I will have to do the same amount of

tweaking for making it dekstop ready. I read somewhere that the devs

strongly discourage any modifications.
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In opposite to FreeBSD, OpenBSD has a working desktop OOTB. You might only want to change the window manager, the default one is quite conservative.
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In opposite to FreeBSD, OpenBSD has a working desktop OOTB. You might only want to change the window manager, the default one is quite conservative.
That's good news but when I Google "openbsd nvidia" I don't find any guide

about the proprietary driver installation. My legacy GPU 6150 doesn't work

properly with the nv driver. The screen gets shifted to the right and that part

of the screen remain inaccessible.

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X Window System support is available for most graphics cards, using the X.Org server. As with other free operating systems it is highly recommended that Nvidia cards are avoided since this vendor continues to show tremendous resistance towards releasing information that would allow X.Org to support their hardware properly.
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That's good news but when I Google "openbsd nvidia" I don't find any guide

about the proprietary driver installation. My legacy GPU 6150 doesn't work

properly with the nv driver. The screen gets shifted to the right and that part

of the screen remain inaccessible.

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Can't use the the proprietary Nividia driver on OpenBSD. It only works on FreeBSD.
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Can't use the the proprietary Nividia driver on OpenBSD. It only works on FreeBSD.
Then I guess I won't be able to use OpenBSD atm. I am stuck with Nvidia coz

its an AMD processor. I am not sure if any brand makes mainboards with AMD

socket and Intel graphics. I know how to assemble a PC but my knowledge

about hardware availability is negligible.

Actually when I assembled this PC I was using only Linux. I visited Nvidia's

website to find out which GPUs are compatible and therefore a driver is

available. I even printed that page and took it with me to the hardware

store. Now I realize that I was supposed to ask in any open source forum

about the choice of graphics and buy a mainboard with Intel graphics.
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How do you actually write your postings? Your line breakings are amazing.
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How do you actually write your postings? Your line breakings are amazing.
I just try to "guess" how the post is going to look once its posted.

The only thing I do I press Enter when I feel like which as you

know takes me to the next line. I didn't even realize this but now

that you have mentioned it I am a bit extra careful with my line

breakings.
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You could try the VESA video driver. It may not be the fastest, but better than a shifted screen.
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You could try the VESA video driver. It may not be the fastest, but better than a shifted screen.
Although I don't run any compositing DE I still need hardware acceleration to

play 1080p videos. No matter which player I use they all crash under the

VESA driver.

I sold my old CRT TV and haven't purchased a new one.

I watch TV using an external TV tuner.
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The VESA driver is limited in resolution and if I recall correctly doesn't support multiple monitors. I have dual 1600x1200 monitors and neither VESA or the nv driver would work for me, the way I wanted on OpenBSD.
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Hello and a belated welcome!

Nvidia does not release technical interface specifications for their video cards. They produce drivers as Binary Large Objects ('blobs") for Windows, OS X, Linux, and FreeBSD. Even if they produced a blob for OpenBSD, which would be a very small market, the project would not accept it pursuant to its requirement to provide full access to all OS sources. This is such a strong principle, the project even has a song about it. Here's an excerpt from the detailed introduction to the song's lyrics:
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OpenBSD emphasizes security. It also emphasizes openness. All the code is there for all to see. Blobs are vendor-compiled binary drivers without any source code. Hardware makers like them because they obscure the details of how to make their hardware work. They hide bugs and workarounds for bugs. Newer versions of blobs can weaken support for older hardware and motivate people to buy new hardware.

Blobs are expedient. Many other open source operating systems cheerfully incorporate them; in fact their users demand them.

But when you need to trust the system, how do you check the blob for quality? For adherence to standards? How do you know the blob contains no malicious code? No incompetent code? Inspection is impossible; you can only test the black box. And when it breaks, you have no idea why.
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I completely agree with what the OpenBSD people are saying and

it makes me repeat that stupid idea which doesn't exist but the fact

is if Intel starts manufacturing PCIe cards with the same Intel

Extreme Graphics it will help people like me who don't want to

go for a full upgrade.
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I like OpenBSD, because:
1) It works. Install an application and it works; immediately and perfectly. In my mind that qualifies as a solid system.
2) Installation is only a base system and one adds what one wants. I greatly prefer that to a system cluttered with stuff I do not want and will never use. It means I am having to learn how to get simple things configured, but I only need to learn it once.
3) Security is a bonus.
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