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Any run *BSD on an Aspire One D257 Laptop?
Anyone try Open or FreeBSD on an Aspire One D257 laptop?
I've come across a few reviews...don't have the points here to post links here yet. But googling for "Aspire One OpenBSD" returned one review that looked like it worked. The model that caught my eye is an Aspire One D257-1854:
Obvious, tons more power than one needs for a pleasant BSD experience. Just a question of drivers. If necessary I could live without wireless...mainly I want to boot, use text editors and compilers, play with unix. Curious if someone else has tried it before I plunk down $250. |
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I can only address OpenBSD. I don't use FreeBSD.
The best way of answering compatibility questions is to search through the archives of the project's misc@ mailing list. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&w=2...aspire+one&q=b Archives can be found on numerous sites; many are listed at the following; http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html Unfortunately, I did not see anything specific to a D257. However, if you read through related searches above, there is more than one occurrence of trackpad compatibility issues. I have also seen off-the-shelf Windows also have trackpad issues, so Acer must have a flunky trackpad supplier. The solution is to plug in a USB mouse. When it comes to hardware compatibility questions, the OpenBSD project is too small to test everything available. The best method is to go to vendors with a clear return policy, & be very clear as to the conditions of that agreement before purchasing. If it works, great. If it doesn't, you have an avenue to get a refund. |
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Thanks ocicat.
I was somewhat inspired by this review of someone running OpenBSD on it...I'd be happy with either Open or Free: http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=a...20081019040000 Some discussion of an older model: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=382 I guess I was just looking for more data points :-) |
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But if I did go ahead & chance it, I would buy from a vendor who would honor returns if I later decided to do so. |
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You can start from a LiveCD and check of everything works (Wireless, sound, etc).
As Ocicat mentioned, not all Acer Aspire models are alike, and there can be great differences even if the model no. is the same. This way you can see which works better without reinstalling. For OpenBSD, I recommend jggimi's LiveCD: http://jggimi.homeip.net/ I don't know of a FreeBSD LiveCD that isn't either very old or that doesn't suck ... Maybe someone else can offer some suggestion there.
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I took the plunge - they're only $228 at Wal-mart. Worst case, I'm pretty sure I can run Linux on it (prefer not to :-)
I created a OpenBSD 4.9 flash disk wih bsd.rd and it recognized everything...realtek ethernet (re0), intel wifi (iwn0), hard disk, keyboard, etc. The network devices show up in ifconfig so they're all working. Not sure about: trackpad, camera, bluetooth, etc. Will have to get into those after I install. Really hoping the trackpad works. |
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5.1-release will have an enhanced Synaptics/ALPS driver. Meanwhile, the trackpad should behave as at least a mouse for you. If you can't wait until May of next year, you could install -current, as long as you understand all of the implications (most of which are discussed in FAQ 5 and FAQ 15).
Bluetooth has a limited tools suite on OpenBSD, primarily for BT modems. If the camera is using webcam standards, then yes, it'll work. |
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Got a quick "does it work" OpenBSD 4.9 install done and all is well:
The Intel Atom N570 is described as "2 core, 4 thread". OpenBSD sees it as four cpus. The Intel.com site lists the instruction set as 64-bit...though it only supports a max of 2GB of memory. I think I'll stick with i386. Hardware-wise, my only complaint is that the mouse click is a bit stiff. Keyboard is pleasant enough and the device is a nice thin Kindle-sized netbook. And now it's even better with OpenBSD :-) dmesg: Code:
OpenBSD 4.9 (GENERIC.MP) #794: Wed Mar 2 07:19:02 MST 2011 deraadt@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N570 @ 1.66GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.67 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE real mem = 1060986880 (1011MB) avail mem = 1033474048 (985MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 04/26/11, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xef735, SMBIOS rev. 2.6 @ 0xe5840 (33 entries) bios0: vendor INSYDE version "V1.04" date 04/26/2011 bios0: Acer AOD257 acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP HPET APIC MCFG SLIC BOOT SSDT SSDT SSDT WDAT acpi0: wakeup devices P32_(S4) UHC1(S3) UHC2(S3) UHC3(S3) UHC4(S3) ECHI(S3) EXP1(S4) EXP2(S3) EXP3(S3) EXP4(S3) AZAL(S4) MODM(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: apic clock running at 166MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu1: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N570 @ 1.66GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.67 GHz cpu1: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor) cpu2: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N570 @ 1.66GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.67 GHz cpu2: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor) cpu3: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N570 @ 1.66GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.67 GHz cpu3: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,MOVBE ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 4 pa 0xfec00000, version 20, 24 pins ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 4 acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xe0000000, bus 0-255 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 4 (P32_) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 1 (EXP1) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 2 (EXP2) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 3 (EXP3) acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (EXP4) acpiec0 at acpi0 acpicpu0 at acpi0: C2, C1, PSS acpicpu1 at acpi0: C2, C1, PSS acpicpu2 at acpi0: C2, C1, PSS acpicpu3 at acpi0: C2, C1, PSS acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 98 degC acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB acpibtn1 at acpi0: SLPB acpibtn2 at acpi0: LID_ acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT1 model "AL10A31" serial 2796 type LION oem "SANYO" acpivideo0 at acpi0: GFX0 acpivout0 at acpivideo0: DD02 bios0: ROM list: 0xc0000/0xda00! 0xcda00/0x1000 cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1663 MHz: speeds: 1666, 1333, 1000 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel Pineview DMI" rev 0x02 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel Pineview Video" rev 0x02 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) intagp0 at vga1 agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0x40000000, size 0x10000000 inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 4 int 16 (irq 11) drm0 at inteldrm0 "Intel Pineview Video" rev 0x02 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 "Intel 82801GB HD Audio" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 16 (irq 11) azalia0: codecs: Realtek ALC269 audio0 at azalia0 ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 "Intel 82801GB PCIE" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 16 (irq 255) pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 re0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "Realtek 8101E" rev 0x05: unknown ASIC (0x4080), apic 4 int 16 (irq 11), address 00:00:00:00:00:00 ukphy0 at re0 phy 7: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface, rev. 2: OUI 0x000732, model 0x0008 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 "Intel 82801GB PCIE" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 17 (irq 255) pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 iwn0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Intel WiFi Link 100" rev 0x00: apic 4 int 17 (irq 10), MIMO 1T2R, BGS, address 78:92:9c:11:ab:f4 ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 2 "Intel 82801GB PCIE" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 18 (irq 255) pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 vendor "Realtek", unknown product 0x5209 (class undefined unknown subclass 0x00, rev 0x01) at pci3 dev 0 function 0 not configured uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 16 (irq 11) uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 17 (irq 10) uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 19 (irq 11) ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 16 (irq 11) usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 "Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI" rev 0xe2 pci4 at ppb3 bus 4 pcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Intel Tigerpoint LPC" rev 0x02 ahci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 "Intel 82801GR AHCI" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 17 (irq 10), AHCI 1.1 scsibus0 at ahci0: 32 targets sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: <ATA, ST9250315AS, 0001> SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd0: 238475MB, 512 bytes/sec, 488397168 sec total ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 "Intel 82801GB SMBus" rev 0x02: apic 4 int 17 (irq 10) iic0 at ichiic0 spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 1GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-10600 SO-DIMM usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 spkr0 at pcppi0 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16 mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support uvideo0 at uhub0 port 3 configuration 1 interface 0 "Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd. WebCam" rev 2.00/82.57 addr 2 video0 at uvideo0 vscsi0 at root scsibus1 at vscsi0: 256 targets softraid0 at root root on sd0a swap on sd0b dump on sd0b |
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Moving this thread to the OpenBSD subforae since discussion has been OpenBSD specific.
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Even if the system only has 2GB of physical RAM, installing OpenBSD/amd64 has some nice benefits.. larger virtual address space, 64-bit registers, and W^X is implemented using the NX bit in the page tables vs the old segmentation trick they use on i386.
A lot of people running Linux choose to use the 32-bit port due to closed source software not being available for 64-bit systems, but for most OpenBSD users, that's not an issue. Many portability problems have also been solved, the 4.9 release had 6620 i386 binary packages and 6570 amd64.. There is little reason these days not to install OpenBSD/amd64 if your system natively supports it, of course, if you already installed OpenBSD/i386 you can always choose to reconsider when 5.0 is released. |
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If you're curious, the device shown in your dmesg is indeed the SD/MMC card reader, it doesn't appear to be supported yet.
vendor "Realtek", unknown product 0x5209 (class undefined unknown subclass 0x00, rev 0x01) at pci3 dev 0 function 0 not configured |
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For anyone whoever googles for this - the exact model is the Acer Aspire One D257-13450. |
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Glad it's working for you. |
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