I need a teacher to learn OpenBSD

[fstef]

Hi everyone,
I hope this is the right place to post this.
Is now two years I'm using OpenBSD and for what I need to do for myself my knowledge is fine but I discovered I'm to dispersive in the learning process; to many things to learn and every time I don't know what come first.
Now, because where I'm living now is a hard place (just for give you an example, here I can't access the "marc mailing-lists archive", I can't surf google, developer are constrain to destroy code posted on github, and so on), I make a decision to build a server offering email, web site, blog, mailing-lists, microbloggin, console access, distributed revision control. For reason concerned users security and privacy everything most be offered on a friend-to-friend basis. Obviously, build the services on top of OpenBSD.
So, I need to find someone whit the right attitude to teach me. I'm conscious of this is a big project so I can pay reasonably the teacher.
I've already contacted some professional consultant but seam like I can just buy the whole package, learn nothing and depending on the consultant service.
Because behind of me here no small or big company I can't afford some kind of price.
I know around already are some kind of services but for many reason nothing is appropriate for what we need here.

I really appreciate any suggestion.
thank's

fstef

[NaWi]

If you need someone to teach ... I would work through the FAQ - during that and, during setup a machine, you will come across many questions to solve. After that, I would make a list about which things you like to have and then work it through point by point.

If you have problems / questions, simple ask.

[pawkolor]

I need a teacher too .!!!

[jggimi]

The best OpenBSD teacher I ever had was Absolute OpenBSD, by Michael W. Lucas. No Starch Press, ISBN-13 978-1-59327-476-4. I used the first edition constantly, and while it is very worn, it still sits proudly next to the second edition on my shelf.

https://www.michaelwlucas.com/nonfic...sd-2nd-edition

[bsd-keith]

I have to agree with jggimi, that book is a wealth of info, & you can learn at your own pace.
(Ditto to having both of them.)

[spiderpig]

Originally Posted by fstef

...I make a decision to build a server offering email, web site, blog, mailing-lists, microbloggin, console access, distributed revision control.

So it sounds like you do have some idea of what you want to configure, and Lucas has been suggested as a great book to start with. A recent thread gets into the specifics of creating an email server -

http://daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=9359

I would also suggest mix in reading of the official FAQ and manpages, and you have a reasonable direction to start work! You can do it!

If you get stuck, try to define to yourself what doesn't make sense, and if you don't find it in this pile of books and mountain of manpages, be concise, and ask here. This place doesn't bite too much as long as you do your homework, and you clearly state where you are stuck...

[pawkolor]

The email server is one stuff.Who person should to know if you want use Opnbsd.

When I start learn about Openbsd the first thing was go to school and learn English .Because all man in Openbsd use English language.

[spiderpig]

Originally Posted by pawkolor

Who person should to know if you want use Opnbsd.

Michael Lucas' book, Absolute OpenBSD as already mentioned is a great first book. This is cheaper than hiring a tutor, and you will probably get more from it than from a teacher too.

Do you need to know English to learn OpenBSD? If you are a newcomer, yes.

[blackhole]

Another +1 for Absolute OpenBSD.

[NaWi]

A feedback from the OP would be nice ...

[muflon]

Originally Posted by fstef

Hi everyone,
I really appreciate any suggestion.

man -a intro

You can export above results e.g to pdf [for print] using mandoc [man utility is now integrated part of mandoc]:

man -Tpdf -a intro > intro.pdf

It would give you 45 pages to read. From section 1 up to 9:

1. General commands
2. System calls
3. Library functions
3p. Perl functions
4. Device drivers
5. File formats
6. Games
7. Miscellaneous Informations
8. System Manager's Manual
9. Kernel Developer's Manulal

Reading all man pages related to your interests [and beyond that] is the only true learning process, that gives You benefits like: autonomous thinking and solving problems, that you need to face with. Unix is like Schweizer Offiziersmesser, Doug McIlroy who present an idea of pipelines [pipe(2)] to Ken Thompson, exposed that.

[fstef]

Thank's everyone for your suggestion. The Lucas' book is already an everyday friend, and i get a lot from the man pages. I'm just feel too dispersive in the learning process, and if is only for my everyday use of OpenBSD is ok, but now, below this project's pressure I think is not enough, I think I'm not ready...
Well, my english is not good as my chinese but it's ok.
Well, just try to do it.
I realised in my first post I make a mistake: I can't access to google, marc mailing-list, blogpost and a lot of different websites.
The first question I need to ask is: for building what I want to build, what kind of hardware I need? What about memory, disk space? A virtual server is enough or I need to consider a colocation?
I don't know if I need to open a new thread for this questions

thank you

[jggimi]

Originally Posted by fstef

..Well, my english is not good as my chinese but it's ok.

If so, your Chinese must be amazing, because your English is excellent.

I realised in my first post I make a mistake: I can't access to google, marc mailing-list, blogpost and a lot of different websites.

That does reduce the information available to you, and I can understand your frustration.

I'm just feel too dispersive in the learning process...

You've mentioned many different types of applications, and it is doubtful any of us can help you with all of them.

I have a suggestion. Eat the elephant one small bite at a time.

Pick one thing to learn. Just one. After mastery, move to the next item on your very long list.

[blackhole]

Originally Posted by fstef

I realised in my first post I make a mistake: I can't access to google, marc mailing-list

Are you sure?

http://www.blockedinchina.net/?siteurl=marc.info

[pawkolor]

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&r=1&w=2

[ocicat]

Originally Posted by fstef

The first question I need to ask is: for building what I want to build, what kind of hardware I need? What about memory, disk space? A virtual server is enough or I need to consider a colocation?
I don't know if I need to open a new thread for this questions

Yes, since these questions go in a different direction, please start a new thread.

[scottro]

If the OP is in China, their being unable to reach Google isn't surprising. (For those not in China, try googling great firewall)

[sacerdos_daemonis]

Originally Posted by fstef

I realised in my first post I make a mistake: I can't access to google, marc mailing-list, blogpost and a lot of different websites.

Ixquick/StarPage and DuckDuckGo are also blocked, but the Russian-based search engine Yandex is not. It is not great, but still decent.

[fstef]

Originally Posted by cynwulf

Are you sure?

http://www.blockedinchina.net/?siteurl=marc.info

yes, i'm sure.
the info you can get from this service is only partially true because don't cover every place. i don't know way but different city apply different restrictions and sometimes in the same city different providers apply different rules.
and where i am the marc.info site is unaccessible.

[fstef]

Originally Posted by ocicat

Yes, since these questions go in a different direction, please start a new thread.

i get it, thank you