New to OpenBSD ...How to update system ?

[jggimi]

Originally Posted by bsd007

Sorry didn't understand that. Does that mean I can upgrade ?

It means your snapshot is about two days newer than 6.2-release. An "upgrade" would be a downgrade, and it may not work. It is not supported.

[bsd007]

Originally Posted by hitest

bsd007, It may make more sense for you to install OpenBSD 6.2 when it is released on or about September 15, and apply security updates via syspatch as the updates become available.

Okay then I will come back to this forum on September 15th, ask about the release and then download and install it.

If only I had done it before I wont be in this mess.

[jggimi]

Originally Posted by bsd007

Okay then I will come back to this forum on September 15th...

Today is October 6.


As I stated above, if you subscribe to the announce@ mailing list, you will be informed by Email when OpenBSD 6.2 is released.

[bsd007]

Originally Posted by jggimi

Today is October 6.


As I stated above, if you subscribe to the announce@ mailing list, you will be informed by Email when OpenBSD 6.2 is released.

LOL ...Sorry about that.

When I Google "openbsd announce@ mailing list" I get https://www.openbsd.org/mail.html. Is this the page ?

[bsd007]

Done / Subscribed

[jggimi]

Wow. Had you also clicked on the Mailing Lists link on the Project's main web page, you would have gotten to the same page.

The page lists all of the mailing lists, including announce, which has a purpose described as "Announcement and security advisories." The page also describes how to subscribe, either via sending an Email message or via a Web interface.

[bsd007]

I confirmed the subscription via web interface. Subscribed to announce.

[LeFrettchen]

Originally Posted by ibara

One year from the release date: https://www.openbsd.org/62.html
aka October 15, 2018

2018 ?

You meant 2017, right ?

OpenBSD 6.2

Released October 15, 2017
Copyright 1997-2017, Theo de Raadt.

6.2 Song: coming in December.

[ibara]

Originally Posted by jggimi

However, ibara was a developer. Now, a developer emeritus.

I believe the word you're looking for is troublemaker.
Also, it's is a developer. My account is active.

[ibara]

Originally Posted by LeFrettchen

2018 ?

You meant 2017, right ?

I did mean 2018, as I intended to write the EOL date for 6.2, but I see the confusion.
6.2 will be released in a week or so, supported until a year after its release, which will be sometime in the middle of October 2018.

[jggimi]

Originally Posted by ibara

I believe the word you're looking for is troublemaker.

Hah!

Also, it's is a developer. My account is active.

Well, thank you for the correction!

(Gentle readers, ibara was instrumental in improving my meager porting skills. They're still pretty meager, but they were much worse when he started providing me with some guidance.)

[ibara]

You're too kind. But on that note, look out for another porting workshop class at NYC*BUG that I'm running (/shameless self promotion, which is getting to be dangerously close to the point where I'll need to spin that off into a new topic).

[LeFrettchen]

Originally Posted by ibara

I did mean 2018, as I intended to write the EOL date for 6.2, but I see the confusion.

All right, sorry, I was confused

[bsd007]

What is the differnce between

doas syspatch

and

pkg_add -Uu

?

[TronDD]

syspatch applies errata to the base system.

pkg_add -u (-Uu would be redundant) updates packages.

Again, OpenBSD has a seperation between the base tools maintained by the OpenBSD team and the 3rd party packages provided by the ports team. And I chose the words 'maintained' and 'provided' deliberately.

[bsd007]

Thanks. I am running pkg_add -u right now.

Its very slow. Checking each package

[bsd007]

Perhaps a stupid question but since snapshots dont receive updates either from

doas syspatch

or

pkg_add -u

is a snapshot safe to use ?

Just trying to clear any doubts I have.

[jggimi]

Originally Posted by bsd007

Perhaps a stupid question but since snapshots dont receive updates either from

doas syspatch

This is correct. The syspatch(8) tool is used for binary updates of -release systems to apply errata patches. Currently, this is only available for the amd64 and i386 architectures. Users of other architectures must apply the patches to -release source code, compile, and then install the appropriate module.

or

pkg_add -u

You are incorrect, but only because of timing. As I noted somewhere way up above in this very long thread, -current is used to prepare the next -release. During -release preparation, -current is named as if it were the next -release. At those times, one must use -D snap in order to direct pkg_add to the correct directory or, temporarily override $PKG_PATH. See the pkg_add(1) man page.

Snapshot packages are available for the convenience of -current users. They are not synchronized with snapshots, as snapshots can be produced far more frequently. It is up to the -current user to manage any synchronization issues which may arise from using snapshot packages. For high performance architectures such as amd64, this may only require waiting and retrying after either the OS or packages are updated. For users of slower platforms with less frequent updates or that do not have snapshot packages, this may require manually building select ports.

is a snapshot safe to use ?

Yes. But it may require more skill or knowledge than you currently have to manage a -current system successfully.

FYI, 6.2 was released today. As discussed previously, you may consider reinstalling, using the release and its synchronized packages.

[bsd007]

Originally Posted by jggimi

FYI, 6.2 was released today. As discussed previously, you may consider reinstalling, using the release and its synchronized packages.

I am really confused. On the openbsd main page I see

The current release is OpenBSD 6.2, released Oct 9, 2017.

Isn't this current and not release ?

[bsd007]

https://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/...4/install62.fs

Is ^^ this what I should be downloading ?

Please confirm.