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Updating Wikipedia screenshots
On the OpenBSD Wikipedia page, many of the screenshots are about five years old. About a year ago, someone posted in the discussion forum about updating the photos but they have been the same since. I replied a few days ago saying I'd do it with no objections, so here are the old and proposed new screenshots. Let me know what you think and if I should adjust or change anything in any of the new ones. I also have a link to this post on the Wikipedia discussion section for the OpenBSD page.
Old: JWM screenshot New: GNOME screenshot (Note: I decided to switch JWM with GNOME since it is used more and would give OpenBSD an image of being workstation-friendly and not only minimalist.) Old: OpenBSD 3.8 booting New: OpenBSD 4.9 booting Old: OpenBSD 3.8 fvwm New: OpenBSD 4.9 fvwm Old: OpenBSD 4.4 Xfce New: OpenBSD 4.9 Xfce Updating the usage survey graph near the top of the wiki might also be useful if a more recent survey has been/can be done. |
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OpenBSD is an operating system by experienced engineers for experienced engineers. While anyone is welcomed to use it, the community is neither large enough nor really cares to spoonfeed those that don't get it. While this may seem unfriendly or cold, it simply is reality. |
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I went ahead and updated the page, since there were no comments on the Wiki discussion section. To the previous poster, I put both GNOME and Xfce although it is somewhat redundant since the latter was already there. Let me know how it looks if you ever want to check out the page.
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It looks ugly as a shit (it is completely against the spirit of OpenBSD (minimalism)) and it will be reverted its originals as soon as I have some time to burn editing Wikipedia pages!
Last edited by Oko; 26th May 2011 at 11:40 PM. |
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Looking at the article, I think there are too many screenshots now. I would keep the FVWM one, place the console screenshot underneath the OpenBSD logo (look at FreeBSD's article for example), and remove everything else (including the usage graph, which is now six years old). The article itself probably needs some restructuring, and I would do it but I hate editing Wikipedia articles anymore since it is inevitably going to be someone else's "turf."
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I don't understand why anyone added screenshots of X11 to begin with, that has always been an area of personal customization on Unix; none of the pictures there reflect OpenBSD in any way.. you can't even tell what operating system they're hosted on.
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Absolutely agree with you BSDfan666. I will never forget a comment of an experienced OpenBSD guru when asked by an idiot to provide a screenshot. He flat out refused. When request was repeated this time with the argumentation that it could help spread out the word about OpenBSD and wider user base he replayed:"You do not get it! Don't you? We want to keep people like you, those who need a screenshots, as far as possible from our beloved OpenBSD". |
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What you're saying is what I was trying to get at- any DE/WM will look basically the same on any OS. Not to say OpenBSD with GNOME is the equivalent of Ubuntu, it's just that OpenBSD can be a minimalist server/desktop or a full-fledged Linux alternative.
Alas, it seems that making this post and waiting two weeks wasn't enough- I had to actually post the screenshots to get the hate mail come in. I don't take it personally however as it seems par for the course when OpenBSD is anywhere in the picture. |
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I just went to the OpenBSD Wiki page and realized it was changed as Joe Kiser suggested. I mentioned this in the discussion section and hopefully we'll get some feedback. I think this is for the better- it eliminates unnecessary and redundant screenshots as well as the old usage graph. That graph coupled with the old screenshots makes it seem like the article had been neglected the past five years.
I look forward to getting some seasoned Wikipedia editors' take on it. |
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But OpenBSD is NOT a full-fledged Linux alternative. It has no commercial support to speak of for any desktop application including something as widely used as Flash. It can not be used for scientific computing for instance even on the most naive level due to the same reason. I use MATLAB on the daily base and unfortunately the only way to do that is to VNC on my Linux cluster or to boot my Laptop into Windows 7.
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We have in-deed asked about the Flash on Adobe web-site and were ignored much like FreeBSD for instance. We have not asked about the Flash to be able to watch YouTube but because it is unfortunately some times needed to manage consumer class routers. One of current developers has offered in the past to sign NDA with Opera. This is the first and the last case of such an offer by any OpenBSD affiliated person. For the record he was not developer at that time. He was promptly dismissed by Opera spoke person. For the record Opera does NOT run on current via Linux emulation after most recent changes the emulation. So, yes thank you for your suggestion. I think it is actually very, very good. I am starting a process of founding closed OpenBSD user club and only the members of that club can use OpenBSD from now on. I already contacted Theo and Bob about that matter and you can expect soon that OpenBSD cvs server goes down Last edited by Oko; 29th May 2011 at 06:22 PM. |
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I honestly could care less what is going on with Linux. I cold heartedly had to install Linux (Scientific Linux to be precise) on one of my clusters because there are no CUDA (GPU computing) drivers for Solaris or NetBSD. Motivated by your post I am going to install on Tuesday after memorial day Windows 7 on that cluster. I have been using Windows 7 on couple of machines where I needed MATLAB (Skype; and Microsoft Office to lesser extend ))It seems rock solid . It is also a damn secure system behind that OpenBSD firewall of mine Last edited by Oko; 29th May 2011 at 09:20 PM. |
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