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Old 3rd July 2008
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OpenBSD 4.4-beta has been announced on the OpenBSD Journal:

http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=artic...20080702151935
Q: I know about -release, -stable, and -current. What is -beta?

A: Several months before the next -release, new development work is set aside, and synchronized snapshots are made on all architectures, and public calls for testing go out. These snapshots are -current, but -current that is very close to what will be in the next -release. The only development that will continue are patches to reported problems. After approximately 8 weeks of this (sometimes shorter, sometimes longer), the patched system will be tagged as "-release", CD images will be made for pressing, and development will begin anew.

Q: When will 4.4 become -release?

A: Support and availability will likely begin November 1. Releases are typically May and November. The tagging in CVS and the building of CD images takes place about two months earlier.

Q: Should I test this -beta snapshot?

A: That's up to you. Note that -beta will be a series of snapshots, depending on your architecture and the type and pace of patches applied.

Q: Can I "upgrade" from 4.3-release?

A: Yes, but there is no upgrade guide for 4.4-release, yet. That gets created much later in the process. It occurs once -release is tagged but before -release is supported. The new sysmerge(8) facility and the Following -current FAQ can help manage an upgrade.

Q: If I install or upgrade to -beta, and then decide I want to go back to -release or -stable, can I "upgrade" backwards?

A: No, you will need to reinstall -release or restore it from a backup.

Q: What about all my installed packages?

A: If you are upgrading from -release/-stable to -beta, your packages should continue to work without change, as all older system libraries are left intact.

Q: Can I upgrade packages as well as the OS?

A: Maybe. For many architectures, "snapshot packages" are made available. However there is no guarantee that they will be in sync with any particular snapshot, so you may have to build them from ports.

Q: If I install -beta, rather than upgrade, what do I do about packages?

A: Obtain them from the applicable snapshot package directory. But be aware that there is no guarantee that they will be in sync with any particular -beta snapshot. You may have to build them from ports.

Q: What happens at the end of the -beta testing period?

A: The new -release is tagged, and -current gets a new number. In this case, 4.4-release will be tagged, and 4.4-beta will revert to 4.4-current. If you install or upgrade to 4.4-current after -beta, you will have moved beyond 4.4-release, and if you wish to return to 4.4-release in November, you will need to reinstall; you cannot upgrade backwards. At some point, 4.4-current will become 4.5-current, but this is just naming convention. It is still the same, ever changing -current.

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Definitely will be some interesting things in this release, not entirely sure if DRM/DRI will be enabled by default but here's hoping.

I thought oga@'s was working on nouveau.. but I guess that'll be a 4.5 thing..

Firefox 3 might not make it into the release it seems, let's hope 2.0.0.15 does at least... or 2.0.0.16 which is due out on the 15th of this month.
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Up and running

Code:
/home/nihonto $ dmesg | more
OpenBSD 4.4-beta (GENERIC) #964: Tue Jul  1 20:51:26 MDT 2008
    deraadt@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.61 GH
z [...]
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/home/nihonto $ uname -a
OpenBSD sushi.my.domain 4.4 GENERIC#964 i386
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I thought oga@'s was working on nouveau.. but I guess that'll be a 4.5 thing..
From information I have received, the 3D acceleration work can be enabled in GENERIC, but will not be enabled by default. It is not quite ready for prime time yet.
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Right, thanks ocicat.. who knows, perhaps some of the blockers will get before the tagging.

Anyway, do you know if Xenocara will be built with DRI support? or.. will that, like GENERIC have it disabled?
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Anyway, do you know if Xenocara will be built with DRI support? or.. will that, like GENERIC have it disabled?
I have no information on this matter.
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From oga@
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=121243893025861&w=2
"still not ready for primetime"

There are several issues upstream at X.org they set aside until server 1.5
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