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Other BSD and UNIX/UNIX-like Any other flavour of BSD or UNIX that does not have a section of its own. |
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Redhat / Centos | 24 | 15.09% | |
Suse | 4 | 2.52% | |
Debian | 36 | 22.64% | |
Slackware | 30 | 18.87% | |
Gentoo | 13 | 8.18% | |
Ubuntu | 23 | 14.47% | |
Others | 29 | 18.24% | |
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My personal experience with it involves kernel panics, kernel panics, more kernel panics, and then some. Quote:
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But both of them seem to be trying to be BSD with a Linux kernel ... If I want to use BSD I would use ... BSD ... Not BSD with a Linux kernel ... Anyway ... I installed CentOS, so far it seems rather nice, other than the fact that 1680x1050 resolution doesn't work (odd ... But seems morel like Xorg issue than CentOS). It seems to be pretty desktop oriented, no gcc by default for example, Windows-style pop-up ``balloons'' for updates, etc.
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RE: what linux distro do you use and/or like?
My personal favorite nis Ubuntu due to the fact that i has support for almost any architecture (I.E. Sparc) and its ease of use and flexibility.
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I've used over twenty linux distributions and haven't found any of them to be as flexible as FreeBSD. Ubuntu may do well in the ease-of-use department, but it masks much of the underlying functionality. To a lot of their users, that's acceptable because they are looking for a replacement to Windows without a huge learning curve. However, I don't agree that "its popularity [necessarily] means that one will almost always be able to find someone to help solve a problem." I previously defined Ubuntu's target users; with that definition in mind, you can bet that if a difficult problem arises, then a lot of the users won't know how to solve it because they never truly learned about Linux or Unix. There's nothing wrong with that until you hit that sort of a problem, and at that point, only knowledgeable users can help you. By the way, check out Ubuntu forums. The Ubuntu community is one of the worst I've seen with tons of members that truly don't know what they are talking about. I had an argument with one user about how a server should not run X unless absolutely necessary. He and his cronies were trying to make the case that X on a server is perfectly acceptable and normal.
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You will find a lot of input here: http://wiki.osx86project.org Compatibility lists, what hardware works and so. Generally I put Mac OS X CD, created partition for Mac in Mac installer, then hit install, reboot, done. Quote:
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Mac computer is currently nothing more then x86 Intel based box with s/BIOS/EFI nothing more. There is also project called EFI-X: http://www.efi-x.com/index.php?language=english which allows ou to run unmodified Mac OS X on x86/amd64 but I did not have time to try that.
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@ninjatux. Well, let's be flexible in our definition of flexible. In this case, I meant easily used by the beginner and still usable by the more advanced.
In the sense that I think you're using the word, configurable, you won't get an argument from me. However, though I've used many different Linux distributions, I've probably spent more time learning how to configure the BSDs, so I could easily be wrong. (For example, I don't do that much configuring of CentOS, choose some packages here, stop some services there, and then go to putting in the applications.) As for Ubuntu forums, yes, there are far more beginners than experts there, but the number of experts seems sufficient--it's just that there's a lot of silliness to wade through before finding an answer. I remember coming across a thread of someone who had a problem--seeing that the thread was 20 posts long, I didn't think it would need me to post the solution. (A simple with thing with sound on Acer laptops at the time, which as been fixed since.) However, looking at the thread, I saw that no one had given the right answer. On the other hand, and I guess this fits in with Ubuntu's stated mission, to bring Linux to the masses so to speak, I see amazing patience with the silly beginner questions on that forum. I also see that the beginners gradually answer the person with even less knowledge, so it seems to be a good community, despite the sometimes overwhelming numbers of newcomers. |
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Wubi is an installer that dual boots Ubuntu with Windows. I installed it on this notebook last Sunday. As of this morning it wouldn't boot into Ubuntu anymore and I may have lost some work. I admit there is something wrong with this notebook but it does boot into Windows.
If you aren't familiar with it, it puts Ubuntu into a compressed folder in Windows. You can install/uninstall through Windows just like any other program. If anyone has a guess, I'm on a notebook Compaq Presario 2525 and I get an Axiom PXE boot problem saying a network cable isn't installed. I've had this issue for a month or so. Usually powering down/up fixes it. |
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http://www.dailytech.com/IBM+Takes+A...ticle12586.htm
Read the comments, and you'll see why I don't want to have much to do with Linux. No doubt, some of those people won't be able to even hold a candle to people who have used other Unix's. The Linux community is just too misinformed and misguided.
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Glancing through the comments, I don't see what got you so annoyed. You must have read them more closely than I did.
I'm sure that your right, some of the people wouldn't be able to connect the cables, but I guess that we should beware of spreading FUD. There's lots of very knowledgeable Linux users out there. |
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I agree with Scottro. There are some of the usual fan-boy responses from the young and naive, but also some by people who seem to know what they are doing.
For me, I don't choose a product based on who uses it. I choose based whether it works for me or not. Heavens, I drive a Benz. Does that mean I'm a rich, insufferable snot? I can assure you the former at least is not true. |
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I don't choose a product based on who uses it, either. If I were to, then I wouldn't have bought a Mac. However, if you look at some of the comments, it seems that a lot of those people are completely oblivious to what Linux, and in the general sense Unix, is all about, yet they use it. I don't care what somebody uses, but I expect them to be knowledgeable about what they use.
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You must not visit any of the OS X communities. In my experience most Mac users have no clue about computers, but they do know how to run their favored applications. Mostly.
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Yes, I flipped through a few and can see why he got irritated.
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With all due respect to the knowledgeable youngsters out there , I do get very frustrated when I realize the f'n idiot I've been arguing with, and can't understand how anyone can think that way, is still in school and never had a full-time job. |
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Agreed. Anyone worried about the Microscoft tax clearly has never paid the bevy of taxes an employer does for an employee.
(added) That wasn't part of this particular discussion, but often it is. |
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After trying several distributions, i found that Arch Linux was the best choice for me - after FreeBSD of course.
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I have jumped around through a few Linux distros in my time.
So far I've yet to find one that makes me as happy as FreeBSD in terms of package management, which is fairly important. 1) Arch Linux -- I like that in theory they offer both binary and source options like FreeBSD, but it's very immature -- the system is extremely awkward if you go source and (silent) broken dependencies seem very common. Overall, Arch is good in theory but needs ~3+ years before it is mature. 2) Debian. Debian was how I found out that I hate binary-only distros. Lasted about 6 hours on my machine. 3) Gentoo. Gentoo would be a lot better if I had a tinderbox or a faster processor, but at 1.6GHz I'm wasting a lot of time. Portage is good but not great. Very few binaries (outside of OO and Firefox) and upgrading frequently silently breaks dependencies, which is a big pet peeve. It's what I currently run. I'm less than satisfied, though. 4) (K)Ubuntu. We run this at work. I like that everything Just Works(tm). This is what I recommend to all Linux noobs. The KDE interface is less intimidating for people who are migrating from Windows. I'd never run it on my home machine though, because as I said I hate binary-only package systems. 5) Slackware. This is the next one I need to try out. I hear a lot about it and have never loaded it up. It'll probably eventually replace my Gentoo after I back Gentoo up (I am *not* rebuilding that from scratch on this slow processor ) |
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My main desktop is Ubuntu, Vista, XP (have to have the windows)
My media server is Mint Laptop is Arch (could't get OpenBSD running on it) Works system is xubuntu (only one that worked really well on a p3 500 so far) I have talked about moving to *BSD, my wife doesn't like the idea other distro's I have used: Mandrake, Gentoo, Red Hat, Fedora, Frugalware, Vector, and soem security based ones. |
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Your wife doesn't like the idea??!!!
Debian turned 15 yesterday. I guess my party invitation was lost in the mail. |
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Nope, she is more a windows user then Linux and wasn't thrilled when i installed Linux either
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So, divorce her and marry this girl instead
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