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Stability is certainly an area that M$ still fails in - although, in fairness, they have improved significantly in the past ten years (remember the old crashing jokes comparing Windows to cars ). Even though M$ doesn't "crash" all that often for me anymore - I notice that things just stop working. For instance, today at work the CD drive just stopped reading discs - it was stuck with one discs information on it and wouldn't read anymore. I had to reboot it and all was well (for the moment).
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I find it interesting that someone would say BSD crashes more than Windows. Long ago I tired of people whining about Windows crashing since I don't too often have the issue. XP has crashed, hung, froze, whatever, but not often enough to aggravate me if I have enough memory (unlike this 512Mb notebook I have now).
I'm surprised, maybe shocked, anyone would say BSD crashes more. Since my novice days 3 1/2 years ago, I've never had FreeBSD crash, hang, freeze or anything beyond my own doing. And I'm an experimenter unafraid to "see what happens when I do this". I've had boxes run for months and boxes not crash during lightning storms while all the Windows boxes shutdown. I'm just very, very surprised to hear anyone say otherwise. |
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For me I think it is X11. I have my box set up right now to use gdm (the Gnome display manager), so if X11 exits, the computer reboots. I should get rid of gdm and start the other daemons individually.
It happened to me about a week ago, where I was viewing a page with IE6 in Wine. It froze; I could not get any console windows, and then it just rebooted. I'd bet that was X11. I've had quite some issues with that over the last six months or so, likely because I use dual monitors in Xinerama and the nVidia driver. |
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For me, as far as the entire operating system "crashing" goes. Windows XP and FreeBSD have only screwed me over hardware issues.
Windows XP -- when pissing on my drivers and my 'abusive' multitasking habits causing interesting side effects when combined. FreeBSD -- only on crappy hardware with even crappier hardware support. Various elements of "Windows" although not usually bringing the entire system down, have occasionally had stability or even GOD awfully stupid behaviors... It's my firm believe that user level software should NEVER be able to crash a system, render it inoperable, or require a reboot to fix. But on Windows, most things may as well be considered "part of the OS" by nature and marketing. So I count them against it's stability as an integrated system. OpenBSD, at least hasn't screwed me yet. The machine runs like a well oiled swiss clock from power outage to power outage ;-) Quote:
Me, I ain't used IE beyond the "on need" basis since the Firefox 1.0.x days, although I rarely use Firefox since the 2.0 release, we've had a long relationship as far as the many browsers and I go.
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From today's techreport.com:
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...the number of Windows systems out of a 160-million sample group hit 90.89% last month, down from 91.13% the month before. Over the same time period, Mac OS X climbed from 7.83% to 7.94%, and Linux crawled up from 0.68% to 0.8%. See http://techreport.com/discussions.x/15065 |
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From http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=8 (Which is the same source as the article):
SunOS - .01% - I assume this includes Solaris ... FreeBSD - 0.00% Even the Wii, Playstation 2, and iPhone score better ... OS trends over the last year: http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=9 Please not that this only applies to desktop systems, this survey does not include server systems. Well, it's still a far cry from a fair, open, free, and competitive market ... But things are moving in the right direction ... slowly...
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Used to work fine ...
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Knowing UnrealEd under Windows, I'm _really_ not surprised that it does that ^_^.
Although I do seem to recall something from xscreensaver, whose author is very X-smart. Quote:
I would guess it still holds true with modern X Servers?
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Sure does for me. I never had any issues with XFree. Xorg was fine too until it reached version 7. Thereafter I have all sorts of minor issues, and that is ignoring the xorg/HAL/mouse issues that popped up recently.
Maybe I misattribute the cause -- I've not looked in detail -- but that is what it seems like. |
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> Sure does for me. I never had any issues with XFree. Xorg was fine too until it reached version 7. Thereafter I have all sorts of minor issues, and that is ignoring the xorg/HAL/mouse issues that popped up recently.
same here. plus, xorg seems to have more issues on freebsd - atleast in my experience. |
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Xorg 7.3 seems to work rather well for me, other than the Wine issue ... Xorg 7.0 and 7.1 were pretty bad though...
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Do you realize that you just bumped a 3 years old thread?
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Old thread | equals | dead thread?
Before I start new topic, I used to find out, using search option, if there is a similar one. Greetings. |
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In general, most forum conversations end within a week or so of the original post -- meaning that:
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