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View Poll Results: What's your relashionship with Java?
I use it because I like it. 11 23.40%
I use it because my job demands it. 11 23.40%
I use it because its in fashion and don't wish to be an outcast. 1 2.13%
No Java for me, thank you. 25 53.19%
I don't like managed code. 8 17.02%
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Old 25th July 2008
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I didn't used to like Java at all because of it's closed nature
Hm, the source was aviable (except the bootstap)

Maybe i'm outing me now, but i work in a java house (and i have running many web applications with java running since FreeBSD 5.2).

I agree with the dislike of every new tool that comes now with a java gui and support for only one platform (backup, clientless vpn... for windows) but that's another story.

All I can say is a well developed 'enterprise java' app can run fine and quick even on a old 600MHz machine with 512MB ram (deploy time not counted)
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Old 28th July 2008
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I agree with ohauer. It is not because there are slow application writtent in Java that Java in necessarily slow. There are slow C application even if C is recognized to be fast.

I had to wrote a few applications in Java at school and loved my experience. I feel this language is pretty complete, as it allows you to write low-level applications as well as high-level application quickly. Yes there are a bunch of methods, but who forces you to use them?
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."
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Old 4th August 2008
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I had to help someone through a Java class once. I had never done it myself, and the pupil wasn't cut out to be a programmer -- she dropped CS shortly thereafter (yes, she was female, but it had nothing to do with her gender).

Anyway, I remember not feeling comfortable with the language. I was flipping back and forth through her textbook to do things that, while flipping, I had already figured out how to do in 3 or 4 other languages. It was quite frustrating (and exacerbated by the fact that she usually waited until the last minute for help, and was on the 2pm-2am college student schedule, while I was working a 7-5 job).

But since I generally form judgments about languages within the first hour or so's use of them or reading about them, Java failed my test. Maybe I didn't give it a fair shake, but I never used it or wanted to use it after that. Now that it has some worthy competition, I probably won't ever use it.

I have used some nice programs written in Java, though, and it can be reasonably fast. Obviously it fits someone's mental model, just not mine.
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Old 4th August 2008
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> Now that it has some worthy competition

(you forgot to mention) which language?
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Old 4th August 2008
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No Java for me, thank you.
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Old 5th August 2008
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JAVA=UGH! but is better than C#. For both I simply hate being beaten over the head with OOP. I like OOP, but the way Python approaches seems much less heavy handed. Couple that with having to deal with type declarations and all that(yes I got spoiled by scripts) and I would rather code in C++ than JAVA. The one plus is the open nature and plethora of libraries.
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Old 21st November 2008
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Deitel's were anticipate an elegant future for java -- C How to Program 3rd ed. --, but I'm in opposite line, And I think OpenJDK is a proof! in the same way that OpenSolaris is a proof.
And in a footnote manner : MySQL is joing to this theory draft too.
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