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Server virtualization
Hi folks,
Server virtualization. What will be the best planning, strategy, etc. on server virtualization? Google found me tons of article sufficient for me reading a month. Can any folk shed me some light on; - whether the host should not run any server or application on it except VMware/Xen/Virtualbox/qemn etc. there ? - if there is only one fixed IP/public IP can it satisfy all servers running on the virtural box? OR multiple fixed IP/public IP are needed? - Which servers can't be co-exist - Network arrangement. - Can I run Vyatta on the same box http://www.vyatta.com/ Pointer would be appreciated. TIA B.R. satimis |
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If you run Xen, you will not be able to run VirtualBox or VMware at the same time and vice versa, you must decide which virtualization sollution to choose, you may also go with KVM if you CPU supports Intel-VT or AMD-V.
You can of course run vyatta and many other OSes at the same time.
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Sorry for the confusion on my late posting. What I meant is running either Xen or VMware or VirturalBox etc. Most likely I'll test Xen. I have a box here running VMware. Any suggestion? Thanks Quote:
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What I'm concerned is following points; - Whether we should not run anything on the host other than VMware/Xen/VirturalBox, etc. - Can I run a workstation as host? Because I don't install X packages on server. I do headless installation. If YES I can configure/install the servers on the workstation. B.R. satimis |
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You may do some "startup" administration at the box in x11 and then after all Xen/xVM setup is done disable X11.
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Hi vermaden,
Good suggestion. Never run Solaris before. In the past for Unix I selected either OpenBSD or FreeBSD. A side question what will be the difference btw Solaris and Open Solaris? Quote:
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Solaris is based on OpenSolaris + some binary addons that are not avialable in source. Solaris is avialable only in binary form while OpenSolaris comes with full sources. Every two weeks there is new build (annunced on opensolaris.org/os JIVE forums) of OpenSolaris SXCE (Solaris Express Community Edition), currently build 90, about every quater Sun creates SXDE (Solaris Express Developer Edition) which is then tweaked/fixed to be a Solaris 10 $MONTH / $YEAR update. For Solaris resources check docs.sun.com lots of good docs there, especially for virtualization, a near 40 chapter book about virtualization for example
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http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/get.jsp#download and the licence of Solaris 10. It need Entilement document to use it, not so free as OpenSolaris. It seems no BT download available. Is 64bit version available? Where to download it? Thanks B.R. satimis |
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Have you checked torrents?
check youtorrent.com also but you can use wget for that: http://wikis.sun.com/pages/viewpage....ageId=28448383 Quote:
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I'm running rtorrent.
On; https://rtorrent.com --> search --> solaris 10 / sun solaris 10 / solaris 10 download can't find *iso.torrent. Usually *iso.torrent can be found on the download site. But I can't find it on Sun download site. Quote:
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It is just a regular ISO file you know ...
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I've been down this road a few times -- Ive tested various soltuions Xen/Vmware/KVM/Qemu/VirtualBox/Viz/ -- a few others...
Anyway the solution I found that I liked best was a NetBSD/Xen setup. Dom0 on Netbsd (well supported) and then made all the DomU's -- You might be wondering why I choose NetBSD. Well first, I didnt want to use linux, granted it works well I just perfer BSD style scripts. Also with NetBSD i was able to use PF natively, which is always nice. I was able to keep the features of a slim small footprinted BSD box and use Xen to its fullest potential. Many might argue and perfer a Linux setup - while this is perfectly fine and works well; I believe the way BSDs work is a supireror design. Also the scalable performance with NetBSD according to benchmarks Ive performed my self, and others Ive seen seems to do a little better then the Linux kernel. Granted this is on the hardware I was using, results may vary. Just my 2cents |
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QEMU is BOTH emulator and virtualizer, without kqemu kernel module it is an emulator, with kqemu it is virtualizer. QEMU also shares code with many other virtualization projects like VirtualBox, Xen, KVM ...
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Not always contributing upstream. All in all, start with qemu as the learning process will be used for almost virtualizer.
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Notthing found. Most links are music and vedio
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Hi folks,
What I need is a reliable OS, light weight, running as host with GUI browser and filer running for file management. All servers installed on the Virtual machine will be headless. Installation/configuration will be done via the host. I need a GUI browser for Internet browsing for help and techical doc during config. I need a filer managing the files download. What will be a good combination qemu and *.OS? Thanks B.R. satimis |
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Hi lvlamb,
Thanks for your advice. I ran Slackware previously. IIRC 32bit Slackware and 64 bit Slackware are 2 projects? I never use zenwalk before, interesting. I'll test it. Standard Edition or Live Edition for my use? TIA Any suggestion on selecting a Virtual server to match zenwalk? B.R. satimis |
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On qemu, emu;ating a Klamath II, you should install the i386-486 kernels.
When installing, install lilo (or grub), and enter clock=pit as options to pass to kernel (see qemu doc). Helps a lot. Zenwalk: any would do, just install the minimum. Upgrade and install first via netpkg. Zenwalk core has all the toolchain but does not insrall X by default. => betpkg xorg Zenwalk is almost compatible with Slakware. Hence, pure Slackware night be a better choice.
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Slack is 32 bit. There's a few 64 bit versions, I think one is considered the quasi-official one but I don't remember which.
As for which virtualization, on Linux, I have a page with my VERY subjective opinion.... http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/vmcomp.html |
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