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What do you mean with this? systemd in the kernel space would be silly beyond belief. Perhaps you're talking about some "advanced" features systemd uses (like cgroups)? I would hardly call it "impossible to avoid"...
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Comments by Poettering concerning how "haters" like the Gentoo crowd will be forced to adopt systemd included references to the kernel. I forget the details, but basically, if they can influence the kernel in any way, they will. Their goal is complete takeover after all. And soon it will be unavoidable. It is a transformation of the system, not a tweak. It is also a hostile corporate takeover. One only needs to research what systemd is, will be and who is behind it. There is enough information to write a book.
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Playful aproaches like this http://www.musl-libc.org/
I'm not talking cool, like a major server OS. Cool, like fun to use. I've always enjoyed minimalist systems and suckless tools. While many projects will never be suitable for professional use, they are interesting to learn and develope on. The limitations of modern demands is often due to taking away of correctness for faster development and inclussion of bulky tools. "Better method" or "correctness" is often defined by the requirements at hand. I appreciate the hacks still putting out lean clean systems and tools. Last edited by fn8t; 19th October 2014 at 03:49 AM. |
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Like most small projects, it will never see the time invested that it needs to even approach usability by more than a handful of folk. Even if it had greater usability, like others that have risen from obscurity, it will never reach the level of maturity many have come to expect. If one day a little project like that reaches the expectations of the mass, it will no longer have the unique qualities that made it interesting. I am so obscure in opinion that I become easily displeased by the smallest of innovations. I liked the idea of Plan9 before people endeavored to port C++ to it. I also disliked the advent of JavaScript and the more recent Html5. Since I don't live in a world of the obscure, I am the one that must adapt. Might mean that I am at some level autistic or that I am just getting old (stubborn). There was this Krishnamurti guy, he once said that choice does not represent freedom. Choice is a sign of confusion. If the situation is clear, the direction is obvious without needing choice. The idea of doing everything one right way, just doesn't seem appropriate for the needs of the many, no matter how much I wish it did. I also suffer from enjoying my own writing and the idealism of the suckie <- per Oko. Even though both may become a little redundant. Hmm.... maybe the later described the previous. I don't seem to care that much. Last edited by fn8t; 19th October 2014 at 06:23 PM. |
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As far as Morpheus goes, thanks for posting, it does look interesting. I'm not going to try it out cause I'm already an operating system away from home and want to keep my focus to get back, but it looks cool. Looks like they're using sh instead of rc, though, which, you know, too bad they didn't go further towards plan 9 in that respect. |
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I wasn't meaning to rub your nose in it. It's just that I'm the opposite of you in this one respect. Lack of good C++ support is one of several things that makes plan9 less interesting to me, though it looks like a beautiful system in the abstract. So the possibility of it getting a newish gcc or lvwm was exciting news I wanted to confirm. |
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If fn8t decides to write fiction, put me down for a copy!
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Very good thinking and expression in words
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Perhaps you're remembering this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd#GNOME_integration?
http://boycottsystemd.org/ also lists something related: Quote:
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