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Old 25th February 2020
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Question Question to modern ThinkPad owners

Today I was browsing notebooks at an electronics store chain and came across some Lenovo Ideapads, there were no ThinkPads. When I tried out the keyboards on those machines I was surprised to find out how flimsy they are: a simple keypress would literally indent the entire keyboard including the top shell! Those things could almost be characterised as being flexible even though the outer shell seemed to be made out of some sort of metal.

Are ThinkPads built in a more sturdy fashion?
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The one I was using for 2 years had sturdy keyboard.
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Ideapads are cheaper "consumer" level. Thinkpads are sturdier and more expensive, business oriented.
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I just have a basic E485 but it's very sturdy indeed, much better than the IdeaPads I tried before purchasing.
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I would say the the old T420 has a better keyboard that the T580 I am using, but I use an external keyboard because I do not really like the cursor arrangements on laptops. I ruled out most laptops because of most have half size up/down keys. I do use an E495 and the keyboard it OK and similar to T series but it is AMD/Vega and not supported by most BSDs, though I have it working on FreeBSD-13 with drm-devel-kmod. I did have to swap the WIFI ffrom Realtek to an Intel but it was easy to open and upgrade.
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