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Old 25th March 2016
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Default OpenBSD 6.0

I was taking a look at the changes coming to 5.9, and there is a lot to look forward to. I was wondering if anyone has any insight as to what will be new for 6.0? Will this be a release with major upgrades coming?
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Old 25th March 2016
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Will there be support for Skylake CPUs and chipsets?

USB 3.1 Gen 2? the one with over 10 G/s speed?

Sata Express?
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Old 25th March 2016
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USB 3.1? Even Intel does not have this in theirs Platform Controller Hubs.
I think that USB 3.1 is not in particular interest among OpenBSD's developers. I think that generally high-performance use cases (I/O: USB 3.1, GPGPU such as OpenCL) for desktop/laptop PCs are not in particular interest among OpenBSD developers.
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Old 25th March 2016
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Default HOW TO SEE WHAT"S COMING BEFORE IT IS ANNOUNCED

For casual review, click on www.openbsd.org/plus.html from time to time. This is the OpenBSD -current Change Log. At this writing, it is empty, as developers have been putting finishing touches on the OpenBSD 5.9 Change Log at www.openbsd.org/plus59.html.

You can keep up with the actual changes themselves, too, by reading the CVS commit logs. There are several ways. The two most common:
  1. Review the CVS Change Log files, which list every commit made to the OS. You may see them at http://<your local mirror>/pub/OpenBSD/Changelogs.
  2. Subscribe to the source-changes@ or ports-changes@ mailing lists. You can receive Emails as individual commits are made, or receive daily or weekly digests.
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Old 26th March 2016
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USB 3.1? Even Intel does not have this in theirs Platform Controller Hubs.
You aren't entirely correct, you know.

Intel's Alpine-Ridge chipset is already in use by one of the world's largest manufacturer of motherboards. The chipset supports native USB 3.1 Gen 2.

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I think that USB 3.1 is not in particular interest among OpenBSD's developers.
A few years ago we thought OpenBSD developers would never support USB 3.1 Gen 1 in the OS. But there's support for it now, as of OpenBSD 5.9.

I am hoping that there will be native support for Sata Express and PCIe NVMe in OpenBSD 6. "The future of technology is now."

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Old 28th March 2016
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I was taking a look at the changes coming to 5.9, and there is a lot to look forward to. I was wondering if anyone has any insight as to what will be new for 6.0? Will this be a release with major upgrades coming?
Every OpenBSD release is "a release with major upgrades coming."
OpenBSD does not follow the model of X.Y(.Z), where X is a major upgrade, Y is a minor upgrade and Z is bugfixes. Every six months, OpenBSD simply adds 0.1 to the current version number.

Is it confusing? Maybe.
Is it going to change anytime soon? No.
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Old 9th May 2016
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Every OpenBSD release is "a release with major upgrades coming."
OpenBSD does not follow the model of X.Y(.Z), where X is a major upgrade, Y is a minor upgrade and Z is bugfixes. Every six months, OpenBSD simply adds 0.1 to the current version number.

Is it confusing? Maybe.
Is it going to change anytime soon? No.
Not according to the release(8) man page. In fact, the exact opposite appears to be true. I knew I had read this somewhere, and it was the premise for this thread, but I could not find it up until now. Below is a direct quote from the man page.

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OPENBSD_x_y_BASE
This tag marks the source as it exists on the release CD-ROM where x is the major release number and y is the minor release number.
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Old 9th May 2016
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Changes in major and minor release numbers do not mean major and minor feature addition.
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Old 9th May 2016
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In actual practice, I think @ibara's description more accurately reflects the distributed release. The convention described in the man page seems to be tailored to those updating their system via cvs.

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Perhaps the man page could be improved for clarity. It describes "major" and "minor" release numbers, which led jjstorm to assume there may be a different development cycle for different components. But the Project uses a single development cycle, as described in the FAQ.
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