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Firefox update politics become contentious
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Mozilla should just add a link to their website that would lead to FIREFOX NIGHTLY BUILD and that's it, mission accomplished, no need for updates and testing at all
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I smell 'upgrade' to Chromium ;p
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Mozilla strikes a conciliatory tone with enterprises
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CentOS 5.6 (latest version) is running OpenSSH 4.3 (Feb. 2006) ... This seems to be typical of the "Enterprise mindset" and many CentOS people I've spoken to seem to think this is the most logical thing in the world .....
So expecting these people to start updating firefox every month orso would require a paradigm shift in their thinking.
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My take on it is that Mozilla no longer wants to expend many resources on back-porting security fixes, and would rather concentrate on development. For those parts of the corporate world that would be disadvantaged by this, Mozilla would like them to foot the bill for extra security back-porting, and/or get together and do it themselves since it's open-source.
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#!/usr/bin/perl -pi # Enterprise browser deployment script # Copyright MR Corp. All Rights Reserved, All Warranty Declined # Version 3.7.14.222c # Created 8/6/2011 # Last updated 12/23/2013 # Change history: # ellisj -- reverted previous "fix" for ticket 288391234 # warnerm -- really fixed ticket 288391234 # ellisj -- fixed ticket 288391234 # smithb -- portability issues, general cleanup. # smithb -- migated to git # dupuisj -- fixed trac defect 3324333 # jasonr -- trimmed version history # jasonr -- migrated to subversion # ginsburgd -- added copyright # jacobj -- improved performance using Perl 5.14.1 # alexa -- improved performance using Perl 5.003 # jzelig -- remove RCS files, imported to CVS # borisk -- #5532334 # bob -- Fixes for bugzilla incidents 233341, 233101, 234581, 242923, # 334433, and 11023. Btw. the shower on the third floor is useless. # There's air all through the pipes. It sounds like a Vickers I138 on a # foster mount with a rusted out assembly. I couldn't get the shampoo # out of my hair worth a damn, and now I feel like there are ants nesting # on my scalp. It's nice to be able to bike into work, though, I'll give you # that. # larryd -- port from tcl # bob -- trim change history s/firefox/agilecloudenabler/g; s/(?<=version\s)(\d+)/1.$1/g; |
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I'm going to agree with the enterprise statement by Mozilla, the organization I work for has over 100,000+ desktops. Normal users aren't allowed to install applications on these, so any updates have to be automated or done by PC Support staff...there is no way that a browser that get updated every six weeks is going to be "approved software". Heck, by the time the IT staff vetted the updates a new update would be available.
As for browser application being independent, in theory you'd think so, but at least in our industry health care and health insurance everything is windows (.NET) so definitely requires windows on the servers and most only support IE. It scares me to know that we have operating rooms that run windows xp...
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What about SeaMonkey? that has a slightly less irregular release schedule, it's essentially a maintained Netscape/Mozilla suite.
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We have Google Chrome, Opera, and Firefox installed on the image, with the default currently set to Firefox. However, considering we have only just this week certified FF5 to work and FF6 is about to hit Beta status with a release this summer, we just may have to consider changing the default.
What's funny is that Mozilla is trying to emulate Google, without realising that Chrome has a major.minor.revision numbering scheme (have a look under About), and that they do continuous updates within a major.minor version, and even within a major version. IOW, Google is doing things right by providing security and bug fixes for major/minor versions, while Mozilla is just screwing everyone over by only releasing major.0 versions. |
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Opera generally seems to release 1 or 2 major hiccups a year, at the most. Making it rather pleasant IMHO. I've also been particularly fond of more consistent platform support than the other browsers. Hopefully what's bad for Dinosaur users will be good for the singers?
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