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View Poll Results: Which VT software do you prefer?
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Virtualbox 13 37.14%
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Old 6th August 2008
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I'd give the VM between 512 and 750MB of memory if you want to do much in it. Of course your main box needs about that amount for itself.
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I'd give the VM between 512 and 750MB of memory if you want to do much in it. Of course your main box needs about that amount for itself.
The whole system has only 1 GB RAM. I guess I could give the VM 512 MB, but all I'll primarily be doing with it is Office - and maybe ssh. It's been awhile since I really did any in-depth work with Windows, but I thought that 256 MB would be enough for XP and Office - is that the case (note that the installer, which was told this was going to be a Windows XP VM, only recommended 192 MB)?
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In most VMs you can up the allocated memory pretty easily. If it starts swapping, then bump it up. 256M for XP is pretty marginal; I'd be very careful about the services and applications you load at boot time.

Or you could just add a GB of memory. In the US that would probably cost $30 or so.
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I'm running VBOX on a Slackware Host and Windows XP as a guest. I am having difficulty trying to do something.

I have another system (also Windows XP) that I need to remote into and setup a share. I have no problem getting into the remote system via Remote Desktop. I try to setup a shared drive, but it is a no go. The remote system cannot see the Windows XP guest enough to map a network drive. The guest OS has a private (10.x.x.x) IP address and a different hostname than what it really is on the network.

I need to do this so that I can install Visual Studio on the remote systems. I have the DVD and need the remote system to install from the DVD mounted on my local system.

I need help in solving this. I can see three different solutions, but cannot figure out completely how to solve them completely:

1) figure out a way for the remote system to be able to map a network drive on the VBOX guest OS.
2) setup a Windows share in Linux (without installing additional software like Samba).
3) connect to the Linux system from the remote system via ssh (that is rdesktop from the Linux system to the remote Windows system and remote back from the Windows system to the Linux system).


Number three seems like it would be the easiest - I already have the ssh server/client setup - but I don't know how to allow installation via ssh from the local system to the remote system.


Any advice?
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if you setup bridging for vbox then the remote m/c should be able "see" the share in the guest OS.

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Always many ways.
The guest usually has his own IP address, as the host has his.
Set an FTP, NFS, Samba server on the host, the guest can use the client side.
With coLinux on Windows, you even can, from the guest, access the Windows files natively.
With UWIN on Windows, you are in a full *nix world when seen from a remote machine: ssh, (s)ftp,.... (if coLinux isn't enough, and you can even acces both with different privileges).
Or use the directory services, but you don't seem to like Windows.
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if you setup bridging for vbox then the remote m/c should be able "see" the share in the guest OS.
You would think! I not certain of the bridging setup - networking was functioning right out of the box without me having to configure anything.

The host has a static public IP, but the guest gets a private assigned by VBOX.
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As a rule, with VBox in NAT mode, it's a bit difficult to access the guest. I usually bridge it. Have I spammed my page in this thread yet?

http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/vboxbridge.html
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> The host has a static public IP

so, the remote m/c is across the Internet.
your isp's probably given you only one ip? in which case you could enable port forwarding (port 445 - w/o netbios) on vbox's NAT.
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> The host has a static public IP

so, the remote m/c is across the Internet.
your isp's probably given you only one ip? in which case you could enable port forwarding (port 445 - w/o netbios) on vbox's NAT.
We have a whole class B network. But, my terminal only has a single IP address.

Either way, I decided it was just quicker just to do the installations manually this time - there were only three machines. But, I will be continuing to investigate this for the next time I need to do a remote install.
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As a rule, with VBox in NAT mode, it's a bit difficult to access the guest. I usually bridge it. Have I spammed my page in this thread yet?

http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/vboxbridge.html
Thanks, I'll be looking into this.
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For those of us who are addicted to benchmarks, i found this link quite interesting :

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/archi.../t-168825.html

The author compares :

VMWare Workstation 5.5.3
Microsoft Virtual PC 2007
Parallels Workstation 2.2.2112
VirtualBox 1.3.6
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I don't know about the MS or Parallels but that VBox version (as well as VMware) are rather dated. VBox improved greatly since 1.3. It's up to 1.6.4.
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