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Anyone who is salivating over Firefox 3 should note that this work is only intended for users of 4.3-current & not those running 4.3-stable or 4.3-release. More details on why mixing flavors is not recommended can be found in Section 15.4.1 of the FAQ: http://openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html#NoFun Last edited by ocicat; 18th June 2008 at 09:50 PM. |
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I know that's how it's been, but am I the only one who is a little steamed at the fact that 4.3 was released less then 2 months ago and we won't be able to get Firefox 3?
Seems like $50 is a lot of money to spend every 6 months to have what we paid for become obsolete in a month or two. It's definitely a pickle, I surely can't go to -current atm, I'm not brave enough for such a journey.. |
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I don't see anywhere in the Project Goals "satisfy end-users of OpenBSD on workstations who don't or won't run -current with the latest shiniest versions of applications they like." As a matter of fact, users are only mentioned in the goals as being able to have access to the OS source code.
We users are not the "target market." If any market exists at all, it is the 90 or so OpenBSD developers. We're just lucky to have access to their work. That $50 (plus shipping, don't forget shipping) is a donation. OpenBSD is free to anyone with Internet access. I run -current on my platforms, yet I donate money to obtain the CDs, merely because I want to donate to help fund power and cooling for Theo's basement, and I think the artwork is cute. -release is just another snapshot, technically. The big differences:
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$50 is actually pretty cheap when you consider the price of commercial operating systems, heck my wireless router probably costs more then an OpenBSD CD would.
Not to mention that Windows XP/Vista install disks are almost outdated before they get off the disk making machinery ;-) I've always installed OpenBSD via boot disk and FTP. I'm very grateful that they make binaries available so I don't have to resort to a 4.x BSD source install style of setting things up!!! Like jggimi said, releases are basically a snapshot with better testing and longer support life. The actual code base is always changing, always evolving, which is why last months snapshot of -CURRENT on may 1st @ 2100Z ain't garrenteed to be the same as a snapshot of -CURRENT taken tonight at 1600Z. If I had $50 when I setup my OpenBSD machine, I would've placed an order for the upcoming 4.0 Release, I would nab the disk set just to say thank you to the developers for creating such a great system. If we don't want to wait on their work to get done and make it's way to us easy, well we best get off our duff and go help them ;-) Quote:
very nice choice of words lol.
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Right, ignore me.
A donation, not a purchase... I probably won't be able to make any more *donations*, to darn expensive and there are no guarantees. (Stickers aren't my thing either..). It's HTTP mirrors in November for me.. |
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FF3 still expermental, not even in -current tree
By jggimi
Special Report to the OpenBSD Times All the news that gives us fits. KITCHEN TABLE, 2300 LOCAL TIME, 30 JUNE 2008 -- The laptop sputtered, and hummed, but the well-known Internet browser, FireFox 3, refused to start. "Segfaulted again," mumbled the laptop's user, who asked that his identity not be revealed. "Why? All I did was upgrade to yesterday's snapshot. I haven't touched a package. Thunderbird has been hanging all week, too, and that didn't change." It is not known how many -current users have been experimenting with the development version of the OpenBSD port of FireFox. What is known is that this wildly popular application requires a great deal of supporting mozilla infrastructure, such as XUL, NSS, and NSPR. The relationships between them are too complex to describe simply as, "dependent." A self-described work-in-progress, the FireFox 3 port and some related dependent ports have been available from mailing list archives for several weeks. They remain uncommitted to the tree. But the allure is undeniable. "FF3 is so shiny and new," said the laptop's user, "I absolutely had to have it right away. It worked for about ten days, and that was great. Then it suddenly stopped last night. Right after I upgraded. I wonder why?" Interviewing this laptop user, I learned that he, like many -current users, take advantage of "snapshot packages." These are tools of convenience that are not guaranteed to work, or even install, as they are not synchronized with any particular snapshot. The Following -current FAQ does not discuss them; the formal method to ensure synchronization is to build all 3rd party packages from a synchronized ports tree. But the snapshot packages work ... most of the time. The laptop user described a diagnosis and resolution which took another 24 hours. "I think it was xulrunner. I ran gdb with thunderbird-bin, and saw segfaults there which didn't appear on console or in core files. So I rebuilt xulrunner, and then spent a few hours rebuilding t-bird and FF ports too." Did he learn anything? He says, "When I install the next snap, I'll probably have to rebuild these again. But I'll have to wait and see." |
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Firefox 3 will be a future thing...
Mozilla is *still* maintaining Firefox 2x, with 2.0.0.15 being released yesterday.
Anyway, send me a PM and I'll set you up... Firefox 2.0.0.15 is working fine. Last edited by BSDfan666; 2nd July 2008 at 03:01 PM. |
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