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your browser choice in 5.7?
I am not saying that Firefox is a bad browser. It just seems that this particular version does not run well in OpenBSD. I use Iceweasel 31.6 in Debian without issues and per Oko the later releases run fine. I have increased my limits in /etc/login.conf and my ~/.profile to no avail. I would use 35.0.1 but previously M:tier has only provided security updates for Firefox-esr. Firefox 38 will also be an extended support release and I suspect it will be released prior to OpenBSD 5.8. Previously, M:tier replaced FF-esr-24 with FF-31 and I suspect FF-esr-38 will replace FF-esr-31
I liked xxxterm/xombrero but there were problems with the webkit rendering engine. These problems appear mostly fixed in 5.7. Although I, just had a core dump with xombrero trying to playback a news video on CNN.com. Last edited by ocicat; 4th May 2015 at 04:34 PM. Reason: edited thread title... |
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Being a relative newcomer to OpenBSD, I was getting a lot of crashing from FireFox 31 on OBSD 5.6 & had hoped it was just that release of FF, as it was also a bit buggy on Linux.
However, I am getting the same problems with FF 35 on OBSD 5.7, so I think I will try Chromium as hitest does not seem to be getting problems with it. Out of interest, does anyone know if it is because of W^X that causes FF to crash?
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I am seeing more stability after removing the Carbon Dark theme. I had 3 tabs open (NYTimes x2 and CNN) in an i386 without a core dump.
@ocicat. I could not find any recommendations on memory limits for Firefox. My i386 systems are physically limited to 2GB of memory and I have 4GB installed in my amd64 systems. For FF use with html5 videos or say 4 tabs when comparison shopping could you make recommendations regarding the amount of physical memory and memory limits? |
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I did try Seamonkey on 5.6, which was better, but still crashed quite a bit, that was why I was wondering if it was something specific to OpenBSD, those both being Mozilla based.browsers.
Edit:Update >> I'm getting much better stability now by using Chromium instead of Firefox.
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I presently enamored with Xombrero (webkit/gtk3) in 5.7. On the same sites/same computer, it seems to render content much faster. It is heavily keyboard oriented and I made a single page *.pdf of the Key bindings that I'm glad to share. Last edited by shep; 3rd May 2015 at 08:25 PM. Reason: added pdf of xombrero key bindings |
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On i386 with little memory Opera-12.16 via Linux emulation is still the best browser by a mile. On amd64 I had terible experience with FF. It was crashing all the time even that I have 16GB of physical memory and removed the limits from /etc/login.conf. I noticed that it had something to do with scripts and automatics DNS fetching. On 5.7 FF 35.0.1 is rock stable for me without any fiddling with /etc/login.conf or anything else. Unfortunately browser situation is becoming really alarming unless somebody really pushes netsurf. I would not comment anything based of webkit as it is not useful to me in any shape or form. We are at the point that there is not a single decent browser for UNIX.
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I use Links+ when I can. It's pretty much required on my VM that only get's 1G of RAM. And on my Zaurus which has way less. It doesn't support javascript or anything fancy, though. I modified it to use libressl's libtls. Works well for the simple things like this site. Tim. |
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The file /etc/login.conf has changed since 5.7 and so far I had no need to play with it to avoid Firefox crashes. I haven't tried with (too) many tabs yet.
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$ diff -u login.conf5.6.ori login.conf5.7.ori --- login.conf5.6.ori Fri Aug 8 08:05:50 2014 +++ login.conf5.7.ori Sun Mar 8 17:51:15 2015 @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ -# $OpenBSD: login.conf,v 1.2 2014/04/22 11:03:40 reyk Exp $ +# $OpenBSD: login.conf,v 1.4 2015/02/17 10:18:36 sthen Exp $ # # Sample login.conf file. See login.conf(5) for details. @@ -70,10 +70,10 @@ # Staff have fewer restrictions and can login even when nologins are set. # staff:\ - :datasize-cur=512M:\ + :datasize-cur=1536M:\ :datasize-max=infinity:\ :maxproc-max=512:\ - :maxproc-cur=128:\ + :maxproc-cur=256:\ :ignorenologin:\ :requirehome@:\ :tc=default: @@ -90,5 +90,9 @@ # Override resource limits for certain daemons started by rc.d(8) # bgpd:\ + :openfiles-cur=512:\ + :tc=daemon: + +unbound:\ :openfiles-cur=512:\ :tc=daemon: https://iridiumbrowser.de/ http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cv...s/www/iridium/ |
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Hey, folks. Let's try to keep this particular thread on its original topic. It's probably already enough trouble for ocicat to separate the BrowserWars conversation, and the tracking methods conversations into distinct threads. Interesting, but they're definitely beyond the thread's original intended scope.
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One could then, maybe, Xen install OpenBSD and then the Opera-legacy package, maybe in other operating systems and have usable browser features again. I did half of that on another OS, but just as an install, and it would probably break in the near term across system upgrades... or maybe one or two files would fix that instance(s)... Just a wishful non-suggestion (imagining most people don't have time for such a project ... ) in case one or two do indeed have the time. Not an OpenBSD user here and inexperienced with chroot and jails except for the half-jail I hastily setup...
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My FF 35.0.1 is more stable on OpenBSD 5.7 than on Red Hat 6.6. |
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Since jb_daefo was asking about Opera:
Last edited by jggimi; 4th May 2015 at 06:58 PM. Reason: clarity |
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