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Cryptography community/forum?
Can anyone recommend a good cryptography forum? I need help decrypting this: http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/3633/crypt.jpg
I've done my best to transcribe the letters: Code:
AGSMFHFMSGALTNOWAZYOMSP PSMOYEZAWONTLAGSMAPBACE AZBMCLBPLCMNOPRADCLTCBY CLYHZPTEPSIQAIKMRADSNET SYCYAMTMLFAEECSYETBBAY EHESAELPPOTSOTSITNAWILLA MICTENLTPKEAMUCHMROEFO HLAZHBTOYMSUMSLEOFTOUSTZ AHMEHSCAAPAOOBLOPSOLMO MLTYEOOHVICLEHOPYBBOSDY TEYILOYWHNYTEKMTHSMTYIYA DKDGPONOCEYLOWEOULDOGSY CDYOMCEOPGOHLSEHKLDELNOEW HAHESLSNGNTLSETOTEONNE HIMTASLLAGELWKSAYIOEAR RE[R]WSDUKALNWOINBTTOUTLE [BACKWARDS R] IRGREOBSHEHDOYUOZBBYOOK HAHATEWTUKEHCCYWTZOTME USOSUEDFYLIKKLZSOYMBT HPTPESNUOPPCEHOASKOSWT TEFETSDUMSDALNLCEEHDE ORORFONWEHYAOUTIDOMLOL RIPIYHYEEKSNHOEWSDESO The frequencies of the letters 'o', 'e', 's', and 't' respectively seem to be the most common, so it might be likely that it's a transition cipher. I have added smaller image, vermaden: |
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Maybe its a Carsar cipher?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_cipher
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How very bizarre, it would be nice to have some context though.. can you tell us a little about this person?
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I really would not prefer to divulge too much information, but...I guess she had some issues. Not just one of those 'depression' things, but for some reason she just became incredibly unhealthy mentally. I've considered this might be gibberish as well, but this is why I wanted other people's opinions first.
If you go to letter 6 from the left on the top line, if you read down it reads "HELPME," and also the 5 letter from the left on the 9th line from the top, it also says "HELPME" with the exception of the last letter's position "E." Also there is one more instance on the 7th line from the top, 7th letter from the right. It reads "HELPMEHEKNOWS" but the line isn't straight; it helps if you look at the picture for the way it is written. Also, the very bottom line, 6th letter from the left. If you read every other letter starting with 'H' it becomes "HEKNOWS" as well, with the exception of the last letter 'S' which doesn't have a letter between it and 'W'. It would be that there is a message in it or not, or maybe it is gibberish, but I'm sure people well-versed in this field would probably be able to tell if it is nothing or not (maybe not from a glance, but still?). In any case, I read on a crypto page about the frequency of letters and that if certain types of messages have certain frequences, and this cipher seems consistent with less common letters used in the English language, etc. Especially the most common letters that are used more often as well, which seems to make sense that there is indeed a message written that is hidden. I read that if a cipher's most common letters are 'e' followed by 't' then it is more like transposition rather than substitution. This cipher has many 'o' and 's' because I think she put certain quotes like "HE KNOWS" in repeatedly which may have influenced that. But otherwise, it seems to follow that rule. |
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Quote:
So you have, 'HE KNOWS, YES HE DOES'.
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Line 7, right of center, I see the word 'MUCH'. Next 4 letters 'MROE' may be 'MORE'. Next 2, 'FO' perhaps 'OF'. Left of 'MUCH' is 'TPKEA'; remove the K, and you could have 'TAKE'. Left of that, I think I can make out 'I CAN[']T'? Does this line say, perhaps, 'I CAN'T TAKE MUCH MORE OF'?
I know it's a stretch.
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Odd that almost all of the 'E' letters are written like a semi-circle with a line in the middle except for two instances:
1) Line 2, 6th from left, in 'HE KNOWS' written down, has 90-deg. top and bottom line. 2) Line 13, 2nd from right, it looks more like a lower-case 'e'. Not sure if this is significant, though.
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Similar with 'm' and 'M' letters.
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Perhaps a variation on Vigenere cipher? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigenere_cipher
Take "help me he knows" as the key. The backwards R and the odd q (4th line, only "q" in text) both look a lot like numeral 9. Perhaps a clue to either key length or number of tables? To my untrained eye, this looks more and more like a cipher, and one she wished to be decoded. |
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Figured out line 11
Okay so I figured out what seems to be the most important line (line 11)
it says something like: "tell I love when they take this to my" I'm guessing the next line has a scrambled name it in but I can't figure that out without knowing who they'd be most likely to want to tell them they love them... after that I can see they mentioned their dogs probably. most of this whole thing doesn't use any of the ciphers we're used to most of it's just scrambled line 11 that I figured out read off like a personalized license plate I don't think they were trying to encrypt this so much that their loved ones couldn't eventually figure it out. okay so possible words in each line: 1.want or now 2.want or now 3. ?? 4.steps, I 5.Face, yet, bay?, baby 6.all i want to do is stop please he 7.i can't take much more of 8.boys?, toys?, sum? of?, to?, of my 9.me, solo, she 10. my (something) body 11.when? why? this is my (tell i love when they take this to my) 12.(probably a scrambled name here) low? would? dogs? we? 13.she? know? 14.he? has? hes? set to one, set, to, one, ten 15.him? tall? has? why? say? I? ear? 16.?????? 17.I? she? book? 18.Hate me 19.used us 20.two? sent? 21.sums? he? dance? 22. why? out? a? or? on? of? .. way out (more likely) 23. RIP? .... there's probably a scrambled name near the end okay so I didn't figure out much.. most of those words are probably not the right ones but I think a few of them are like "used us" "way out" and "hate me" because they follow the subject matter of the letter I figured out enough to get the basic gist of it sorry for your loss guitarscn I know it's been since 2008 but I can tell this was tragic whatever happened I hope you get your answers just keep trying to unscramble words from each line I can't figure out much more without knowing the names that would be most likely. |
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oh and the line with the backwards R could be russian but I doubt it or else there would probably be other non-english characters
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actually, I'd say that each line is encrypted differently
so there could be some ceasar's ciphers and whatnot in there you'd have to eliminate all of the easy stuff first like what's scrambled, what's written backwards, and especially what names are scrambled in there that I can't figure out. |
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6 column over... going down vertically it says "help me"
might just be a coincidence Also I think there are some other standard ciphers used in this mixed in with the simple scrambled and written backwards stuff You'd have to eliminate all of the easy stuff first and then try all of the decryption methods on what's left |
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