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Old 27th August 2008
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Originally Posted by robbak View Post
Yes, I agree that improvements in gnash or swfdec are the way to go.
The problem with going the fund-adobe-to-do-it way is that we could get flash support as good as linux- I run ubuntu amd64 on this notebook, and I have given up on adobe's flash, as it regularly hangs the browser. I use swfdec when I need flash, and, although it regularly doesn't work, at least it doesn't bring the browser down.

Of course, if we could only make flash just go away...! The only place flash provides anything positive is with youtube, and even that could be better done just streaming video data.
Flash support on Linux is terrible. The Solaris port is best maintained and the model for the FreeBSD port. If anything, it should be like Solaris's.

Originally Posted by Carpetsmoker View Post
Actually, there is a working flash player for FreeBSD ... And yes, it's from Adobe ... From http://thebackbutton.com/blog/73/64-...player-exists/ :

And at http://www.freebsdnews.net/2008/08/2...-flash-player/ I found:

And it would seem the technical aspect of porting flash to FreeBSD is minimal, from http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/f...er/005479.html :

While I personly don't care much for flash player (It's off by default on my Windows systems) it useful at times, but I know lots of people why list the lack of a reasonable working flash player as their #1 reason for not using FreeBSD on tehir desktop systems.

You may remember that previously in this thread I said that FreeBSD is primarly a server OS that just happens to function as a (excelent) desktop system, which is true, but I would like to point out that this doesn't mean we should totally *ignore* any desktop-specific development, or dismiss them, I meant that this should not be the focus of the development.
That's interesting. It's also a positive sign, although this makes me wonder whether Adobe has had internal ports of Flash to FreeBSD for all major versions of Flash and they just never could agree on releasing them. If Adobe releases a port, then it's good publicity for FreeBSD as well, so it's in our best interests to coax them as much as we can, maybe fund them.

Also, if they do release a FreeBSD port, then I'd assume that OpenBSD and NetBSD would be able to use it too, through a compatibility layer?
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I have a FreeBSD box and a Win2K box on a KVM, use them for
different things. When I want to watch movies or listen to music
(or burn cd's) I use the FreeBSD desktop and when I want to read
mail or surf the web I use the Windows pc.

More to the point my expectations are different for the FreeBSD
box - I use GNOME for the desktop and it's pretty good at what it
does but I don't expect it to be Windows, which to me is good for
games and web surfing.

My FreeBSD box is more of an educational machine where I can
write code and learn how operating systems work. The fact that
the desktop I use can handle music and movies well is a bonus. The
features of the desktop have improved a lot over the years.

Having done it that way for a while I think having both boxes is
the way to go, enjoying each OS for what it is.

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Originally Posted by cmcgoat View Post
When I want to watch movies or listen to music
(or burn cd's) I use the FreeBSD desktop and when I want to read
mail or surf the web I use the Windows pc.
Surfing the web on a windows pc, your a brave one aren't you
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