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Rather than bore you with my own Unix background, I offer this survey so that we all might know about your background. -Matt

OpenBSD User Survey: 10 Quick Questions

Respond to the 10 selections below as honestly as you are able. Then add up your points and see what category you fit into!

1. I use the following as my 'advanced' terminal, console, or shell on that other operating system:

a. I don't understand what you mean. You need to make it more understandable.
b. I use the DOS Command Prompt/Shell.
c. I use Cygwin's bash, MKS's ksh, or some similar shell.
d. None of the above. I do all my real work on Linux.
e. I don't use any 'other' OS. If it ain't OpenBSD Unix, I don't need it.

2. Regarding Linux:
a. I don't understand what you mean. You need to make it more understandable.
b. I've tried Linux but didn't like it
c. None of the above. I do all my real work on Linux.
d. I like Linux, but I'm giving OpenBSD Unix a fair chance.
e. I don't use any 'other' OS, including Linux. If it ain't OpenBSD Unix, I don't need it.

3. I acknowledge that, although they are certainly not the wave of the future, SunOS, SunView, Open Look, X/Motif and Solaris are:

a. I have no idea what you mean. No more of this stupid 'survey' for me. I have better things to do. I'm outta' here!
b. Something I've read about in history books.
c. Ancestors (sort of) to Linux.
d. Predecessors (sort of) to OpenBSD Unix.
e. Unixy stuff that I remember –
or: Unixy stuff that I worked with
or: cutting edge stuff (OK, 30 years ago) and they're the reason that I went back to the future with OpenBSD

4. The shell that I primarily use is:
a. Shell? Are we going to the beach?
b. Bourne
c. C-Shell
d. MKS or another shell
e. I've changed from the default Korne shell in OpenBSD to another shell (using chsh -s /usr/local/bin/new_shell_name USERNAME)

5. My OpenBSD desktop is:
a. What is a desktop?
b. Whatever comes with OpenBSD
c. I used FVWM, but tried, unsuccessfully, to switch over to {KDE, GNOME. You-fill-in-the-blank}
d. I used FVWM, but then I switched over to {KDE, GNOME. You-fill-in-the-blank}
e. Really not important. Give me a command line!

6. The way you re-size X-windows by grabbing the corner of the window is:
a. New to me. You mean I can re-size them?
b. Convenient.
c. Very intuitive.
d. Something that drives me crazy. I always try to re-size using the sides or top or bottom and only move the silly thing.
e. As it should be in every windowed OS.

7. The virtual desktop is:
a. What is a virtual desktop?
b. Hard to use.
c. Useful. But I’d like to make a given window “visible in all desktops”.
d. Neat. I use it all the time.
e. Really not important. Give me a command line; that’s what Ctrl-Z and bg %X are for!

8. It took a while but I got these to work:
a. Nothing. OpenBSD stinks.
b. A Web browser and an xterm
c. Most of the things that I want and need
d. All of the basic things that I want and need
e. Everything thing that I want and need – even suspend and hibernate!

9. I have set up these:
a. Nothing. OpenBSD stinks.
b. A few things
c. A lot of things, but I still need to do some more set-up.
d. All of the basic things that I want and need. I’m taking a break now!
e. Everything thing that I want and need – even servers (like a Web server and/or an email server)!

10. I use X programs:
a. What? What's an X program?
b. One or two. I can't remember which ones.
c. Two or three like xlock to lock my screen and the xfe file manager.
d. Several - xfe, xpat2, xlock, and xfce4-mixer and still more
e. I run those GUI-based programs from the command line, of course!



Congratulations, you're done!

Give yourself 1 point for each 'a' response.
Give yourself 2 points for each 'b' response.
Give yourself 3 points for each 'c' response.
Give yourself 4 points for each 'd' response.
Give yourself 5 points for each 'e' response.


0-10 points: Unix newbie that is probably a lost cause. BTW, Windows 10 is out!
11-24 points: Unix wannabe. There's hope for you yet. Keep plugging away!
25-34 points: Unix Weenie - Class Three. Be patient. It'll grow on you.
35-45 points: Unix Weenie – Class Two. You're Unix strong, but you still have a real life.
45-50 points: Unix Weenie – 1st Class. You're the weenie's weeny. You have no life outside of the computer and you like it that way just fine. You're well known on the forums and understand that most of those other forum users are beneath you (in skill-level and general knowledge).




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I come up with 38.
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I'm assuming I scored a 48, since I cannot answer question 4 and I scored 43 excluding that question. I in fact use the default Korn shell, it's the best shell. Why change from the best? I'm therefore giving myself 5 points for question 4.
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I'm not sure how to score myself.

My shell on my $DAYJOB Windows workstation is the Powershell; it used to be Cygwin. I don't use Windows other than at $DAYJOB. Is that c? b? d?

I've tried Linux. Several times, over any number of years. But I never deployed it in production. Is that b? e?

My desktop when X is i3wm or fluxbox. But I also have headless servers, connecting via ssh(1) or cu(1). And I have build platforms where I don't use X, but might use tmux(1). Is that e? d?

I normally use i3wm, and like all tiling window managers, resizing is something we really don't think about. It's automatic. But If I need to maximize any windows, or switch from maximized to tiled, I use a keyboard command. Or I provision rules per i3wm workspace, in advance. I have workspaces for tiled xterms and maximized xterms, for example. This doesn't fit a, b, c, d, or e. When I use Fluxbox, I do so when I want to manipulate individual floating windows without tiling (e.g.: Gimp, for certain procedures). That's closer to "e", but I use this relatively rarely.

The virtual desktop is an FVWM-ism, as far as I am concerned. All the other WMs I use or have used all switch between workspaces, if they have them, or don't if they're from Microsoft. This doesn't fit a b c d or e.

I start applications from launchers such as dmenu. And also from command lines. Is that "e"?

I think I'm somewhere in the Weenie classes. But I no longer have suspenders, and I removed the beard for the summer. I'll grow it back in November.

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jggimi, Love it!

And there's so many ways to take this silly survey the wrong way - but you didn't.
You took it all in good humor.
Appreciate that.

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I keep my beard (when I have it) close trimmed, and my preferred shell is tcsh. That's because I took Dru Levigne's advice many years ago.

Her advice on shells. I keep my own counsel on beards.
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Heh - I scored 38, happy enough with that
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Most of my dayjob is done on a FreeBSD workstation, so, after two questions, I stopped, which was a in question 3, therefore, I got 0-10. I guess I should be excited about Windows 10.

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I couldn't get past question 3 because I still use Solaris and Oracle keeps adding new features. Sadly, AIX was omitted.
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Originally Posted by mattthumper View Post
Rather than bore you with my own Unix background, I offer this survey so that we all might know about your background. -Matt

OpenBSD User Survey: 10 Quick Questions

Respond to the 10 selections below as honestly as you are able. Then add up your points and see what category you fit into!

1. I use the following as my 'advanced' terminal, console, or shell on that other operating system:

a. I don't understand what you mean. You need to make it more understandable.
b. I use the DOS Command Prompt/Shell.
c. I use Cygwin's bash, MKS's ksh, or some similar shell.
d. None of the above. I do all my real work on Linux.
e. I don't use any 'other' OS. If it ain't OpenBSD Unix, I don't need it.
ksh


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2. Regarding Linux:
a. I don't understand what you mean. You need to make it more understandable.
b. I've tried Linux but didn't like it
c. None of the above. I do all my real work on Linux.
d. I like Linux, but I'm giving OpenBSD Unix a fair chance.
e. I don't use any 'other' OS, including Linux. If it ain't OpenBSD Unix, I don't need it.
None of the above. I run RHEL on my computing nodes not because I like it so much but because there is no real alternative. My entire infrastructure is OpenBSD + FreeBSD for data storage (1 Petabyte and counting)


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3. I acknowledge that, although they are certainly not the wave of the future, SunOS, SunView, Open Look, X/Motif and Solaris are:

a. I have no idea what you mean. No more of this stupid 'survey' for me. I have better things to do. I'm outta' here!
b. Something I've read about in history books.
c. Ancestors (sort of) to Linux.
d. Predecessors (sort of) to OpenBSD Unix.
e. Unixy stuff that I remember –
or: Unixy stuff that I worked with
or: cutting edge stuff (OK, 30 years ago) and they're the reason that I went back to the future with OpenBSD
None of above! More or less Solaris was the OS for workstations, X-terminals when I started + Irix. The days of the Solaris on the desktop and for scientific computing seems to be bygone now but Solaris is very active project. The latest new thing are import of PF into 11.3 (actually Oracle developer has now commit access and he is actively working on OpenBSD SMP stack). They also switched to vanilla OpenSSH from SunSSH (which was a fork of OpenSSH). They ZFS seems to be always more stable and future rich than FreeBSD for example. Native cryptography comes immediately to mind. They also have turnkey storage appliances which are far more advanced than FreeNAS. HAST seems better than FreeBSD. So all in all Solaris is OS for enterprise data storage shops.

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4. The shell that I primarily use is:
a. Shell? Are we going to the beach?
b. Bourne
c. C-Shell
d. MKS or another shell
e. I've changed from the default Korne shell in OpenBSD to another shell (using chsh -s /usr/local/bin/new_shell_name USERNAME)
We already had this question and the answer was Korn shell as interactive sh for scripting.

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5. My OpenBSD desktop is:
a. What is a desktop?
b. Whatever comes with OpenBSD
c. I used FVWM, but tried, unsuccessfully, to switch over to {KDE, GNOME. You-fill-in-the-blank}
d. I used FVWM, but then I switched over to {KDE, GNOME. You-fill-in-the-blank}
e. Really not important. Give me a command line!
Code:
#!/bin/sh
xidle -program "/usr/X11R6/bin/xlock" -timeout 300 &
xclock -geometry -0+0 &
feh --bg-scale /home/predrag/.unix.jpg &
exec cwm

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6. The way you re-size X-windows by grabbing the corner of the window is:
a. New to me. You mean I can re-size them?
b. Convenient.
c. Very intuitive.
d. Something that drives me crazy. I always try to re-size using the sides or top or bottom and only move the silly thing.
e. As it should be in every windowed OS.
You have a very limited knowledge of window managers There are other ways to resize X window on UNIX.

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7. The virtual desktop is:
a. What is a virtual desktop?
b. Hard to use.
c. Useful. But I’d like to make a given window “visible in all desktops”.
d. Neat. I use it all the time.
e. Really not important. Give me a command line; that’s what Ctrl-Z and bg %X are for!
None of above. Your limited knowledge of window managers shows again. I use grouping not virtual desktops.

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8. It took a while but I got these to work:
a. Nothing. OpenBSD stinks.
b. A Web browser and an xterm
c. Most of the things that I want and need
d. All of the basic things that I want and need
e. Everything thing that I want and need – even suspend and hibernate!
None of the above as it didn't take me a while but rather few hours many years ago to get things working the way I wanted after light reading of man pages. Last ten years I am just drugging my dotfiles

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9. I have set up these:
a. Nothing. OpenBSD stinks.
b. A few things
c. A lot of things, but I still need to do some more set-up.
d. All of the basic things that I want and need. I’m taking a break now!
e. Everything thing that I want and need – even servers (like a Web server and/or an email server)!
I currently run entire infrastructure for a 70+ people research group using OpenBSD. OpenBSD has far more things in its base than a Web server and email server but I will concur that even in my case I have no reason to use some things like OpenBGPD.

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10. I use X programs:
a. What? What's an X program?
b. One or two. I can't remember which ones.
c. Two or three like xlock to lock my screen and the xfe file manager.
d. Several - xfe, xpat2, xlock, and xfce4-mixer and still more
e. I run those GUI-based programs from the command line, of course!
xeyes of course is my favourite but I use everyday xconsole, xclock, xwd, xload, xbiff and few others. I am one of the reviewers of X Power Tools


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Congratulations, you're done!

Give yourself 1 point for each 'a' response.
Give yourself 2 points for each 'b' response.
Give yourself 3 points for each 'c' response.
Give yourself 4 points for each 'd' response.
Give yourself 5 points for each 'e' response.


0-10 points: Unix newbie that is probably a lost cause. BTW, Windows 10 is out!
11-24 points: Unix wannabe. There's hope for you yet. Keep plugging away!
25-34 points: Unix Weenie - Class Three. Be patient. It'll grow on you.
35-45 points: Unix Weenie – Class Two. You're Unix strong, but you still have a real life.
45-50 points: Unix Weenie – 1st Class. You're the weenie's weeny. You have no life outside of the computer and you like it that way just fine. You're well known on the forums and understand that most of those other forum users are beneath you (in skill-level and general knowledge).




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I am not sure about my score but I have incredible feeling that you had one too many joints before making this post.
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Methinks you have taken it too seriously..........

(You can tell by the wording that it is just for fun.)
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Well , I decided to take the test, and was surprise at my score,
Code:
1-d---4
2-d---4
3-e---5
4-d---4
5-e---5
6-e---5
7-e---5
8-b---2
9-b---2
10-e--5
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8. It took a while but I got these to work:
a. Nothing. OpenBSD stinks.
b. A Web browser and an xterm
c. Most of the things that I want and need
d. All of the basic things that I want and need
e. Everything thing that I want and need – even suspend and hibernate!
I choose B, but actually, that was with OpenBsd on a VM, and I actually had all of the basic things I need, (not much). WebBrowser (working) internet connection, Leafpad for file/text editor,manager, and "ImageMagick" ( I like to draw and make animations ), image magick is my favorite, and all I use.Actually it did not take long at all to get what I wanted set up, it was pretty easy, and on the VM it works fine.
However, I do not like using the VM much, so I installed OpenBSD to a USB drive, in fact that is why
I logged into the forum, but I saw this and got side tracked,and it would be a different topic my question. In spite of the high score, there are a lot of things I do not understand or know how to do.
So probably I would put myself in this class
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25-34 points: Unix Weenie - Class Three. Be patient. It'll grow on you

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Fun survey.

I think I'm a class two Slackware Weenie. That's the only Linux I've been using at home since years now.

Being 28, can't grow a beard that long, the gf doesn't like it much plus I'm a noob at maintaining it. I have a life you see.

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