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Old 8th February 2009
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Can any one recommend a good adsl router for home use but needs to have good reliable nat features.
For use in the uk and with out spending a fortune.

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I like OpenBSD, m'self, though I have the feeling you're looking for a turnkey commercial SOHO NAT box, not a FOSS router.
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OpenBSD hey ive no problem with that. I guess you have a small machine with a pci wan card ?
Saying that routers are a bit more easy to locate

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Any 486+, old Mac, old Sparc box can be used, one doesn't need a Soekris or similar WRAP platform. In my case, the "home" router is an OpenBSD/i386 platform that also provides a number of additional network services.

There's been lots of discussion, here, of the advanced network capabilities of the *BSDs over any SOHO router. In the case of OpenBSD, that includes the extremely capable PF (which has been ported to FreeBSD), as well as features such as carp(4), ifstated(8), pfsync(4), relayd(8) ... the list is endless.
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OpenBSD hey ive no problem with that. I guess you have a small machine with a pci wan card ?
Saying that routers are a bit more easy to locate
You only need a WAN card if you are trying to replace the ADSL modem. If you just need a router, then any old PC with standard NICs will work. The modem converts between the ADSL link via telephone cabe and standard ethernet.

If the ISP doesn't give you a modem with the ADSL link, I'd start looking for another ISP.
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You only need a WAN card if you are trying to replace the ADSL modem. If you just need a router, then any old PC with standard NICs will work. The modem converts between the ADSL link via telephone cabe and standard ethernet.

If the ISP doesn't give you a modem with the ADSL link, I'd start looking for another ISP.
Yes I know but as you say I am looking to replace my existing adsl router with built in modem
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Surely your "ADSL router" has a bridge mode, that way you can connect it to your system via Ethernet and use a separate PPPoE client.

OpenBSD has 2 PPPoE implementations, pppoe(4)(in-kernel) and pppoe(8)(userland).

I've only seen an internal PCI ADSL card once, I'm fairly certain they are not supported by BSD.
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Found this-

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Originally Posted by Claudio Jeker on OpenBSD-misc,2008

Use an external modem and terminate the pppoe session on your OpenBSD box.
The only PCI based ADSL card around is based on a very old chipset that is
not ADSL2+ capable and people using the card had stability issues on OpenBSD.
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=120157042122726&w=2
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In the end I bought a Netgear DG632 which I read works good with openbsd or maybe I could use pfsense.
But openbsd would be more satisfying because we dont like things too easy
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In the end I bought a Netgear DG632 which I read works good with openbsd or maybe I could use pfsense.
But openbsd would be more satisfying because we dont like things too easy

oh don't you worry, ppoe with nat and pf and altq is fun enough to configure!

the best is the MTU size setting- doh! I shouldn't have said anything!

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oh don't you worry, ppoe with nat and pf and altq is fun enough to configure!

the best is the MTU size setting- doh! I shouldn't have said anything!

Lol cheers for the info just doing some reading up on the net now
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