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Old 13th May 2008
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So since I have switched to the new site, daemon forums, I have been having lots of connection problems. About half of my requests time out, and when they don't, they tend to come through very very slowly (+15 secs).

I am located in Eastern Europe on a 4Mb/1Mb that is otherwise pretty reliable.

Oh yeah and I think the forum colors are kinda...dull! But that's only a superficial issue
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I noticed this a few nights ago, but it seemed to be a one time thing. It's been fine for me since then.
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This site does tend to go at a snails place often here, sometimes it's responsive.. other times it gets stuck in a "connection reset" loop.

Personally, I'm finding it annoying... even though bsdforums is a spam haven, it sure was speedy.
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Surely Im far from a rich guy but I dont mind donating some money for better bandwidth, disk space or speed

And yes, I too experience the slow speed here.
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arghs I want to read the threads!!!
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67.19.72.202 is from United States(US) in region North America
TraceRoute to 67.19.72.202 [daemonforums.com]
Hop(ms)(ms)(ms)
IP AddressHost name1502410339
72.249.0.65 -2417315329
8.9.232.73ge-6-18.car1.dallas1.level3.net3367379394
4.68.19.198ae-44-99.car4.dallas1.level3.net4340395437
4.71.122.2the-planet.car4.dallas1.level3.net5318320294
70.87.253.26te7-2.dsr02.dllstx3.theplanet.com6296319220
70.87.253.74po31.dsr01.dllstx4.theplanet.com7230448403
67.18.116.115po2.car22.dllstx4.theplanet.com8Timed outTimed outTimed out

-9Timed outTimed outTimed out

-10Timed outTimed outTimed out

-11Timed outTimed outTimed out

-Trace aborted.
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It's most likely a problem with your location on the 'Net, and the route your packets take. For instance, I've never had any issues with accessing daemon forums, and my route is nothing like yours:
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$ tcptraceroute www.daemonforums.org 80
Selected device ath0, address 172.20.0.5, port 55996 for outgoing packets
Tracing the path to www.daemonforums.org (76.162.25.203) on TCP port 80 (www), 30 hops max
 1  172.20.0.1  6.896 ms  0.750 ms  0.747 ms
 2  24.67.136.1  17.638 ms  14.169 ms  9.396 ms
 3  rd2cs-ge3-2-1.ok.shawcable.net (64.59.168.67)  11.890 ms  22.363 ms  11.474 ms
 4  rc1so-ge2-0-0-1.cg.shawcable.net (66.163.77.202)  25.155 ms  22.776 ms  19.672 ms
 5  rc2wh-pos0-8-2-0.vc.shawcable.net (66.163.76.10)  46.901 ms  24.705 ms  28.178 ms
 6  rc1wt-pos1-0-0.wa.shawcable.net (66.163.76.2)  54.876 ms  29.455 ms  28.704 ms
 7  sl-gw12-sea-10-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.224.113.65)  27.849 ms  28.595 ms  37.894 ms
 8  sl-bb21-sea-4-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.6.123)  32.532 ms  29.621 ms  29.630 ms
 9  sl-bb25-chi-2-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.20.157)  72.918 ms  76.295 ms  70.685 ms
10  sl-bb21-chi-13-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.26.89)  75.559 ms  73.349 ms  81.540 ms
11  sl-bb22-chi-15-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.26.97)  77.268 ms  76.117 ms  78.169 ms
12  sl-bb20-roa-8-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.18.37)  77.564 ms  78.814 ms  74.302 ms
13  sl-gw21-roa-14-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.17.192)  78.674 ms  76.760 ms  78.848 ms
14  sl-lodst3-207461-0.sprintlink.net (144.228.176.142)  90.841 ms  92.709 ms  90.407 ms
15  * * *
16  rev.opentransfer.com.203.25.162.76.in-addr.arpa (76.162.25.203) [open]  88.975 ms  96.734 ms  93.004 ms
What does your traceroute look like when you can connect?
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I've never had a problem either except for last night when it was down altogether but that could have been the storm we had, too.
Code:
tcptraceroute www.daemonforums.org 80traceroute to www.daemonforums.org (76.162.25.203), 64 hops max, 80 byte packets
 1  192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1)  1.851 ms  1.807 ms  2.136 ms
 2  10.16.192.1 (10.16.192.1)  8.397 ms  9.015 ms  8.445 ms
 3  24-217-1-61.static.stls.mo.charter.com (24.217.1.61)  13.984 ms  9.057 ms  11.459 ms
 4  24.217.3.1 (24.217.3.1)  9.703 ms  8.918 ms  7.914 ms
 5  24-217-58-82.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com (24.217.58.82)  9.256 ms  9.770 ms  10.648 ms
 6  207.88.185.81.ptr.us.xo.net (207.88.185.81)  219.508 ms  201.591 ms  217.044 ms
 7  65.106.4.233.ptr.us.xo.net (65.106.4.233)  43.472 ms  44.119 ms  43.734 ms
 8  dap-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net (63.146.26.173)  34.014 ms  34.649 ms  37.763 ms
 9  dal-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.225.54)  36.677 ms  34.263 ms  37.477 ms
10  cer-core-02.inet.qwest.net (67.14.8.214)  49.055 ms  51.647 ms  48.880 ms
11  205.171.139.30 (205.171.139.30)  47.995 ms  48.912 ms  48.290 ms
12  63.144.63.214 (63.144.63.214)  58.812 ms  59.366 ms  59.552 ms
13  10.254.0.2 (10.254.0.2)  59.387 ms  60.676 ms  57.667 ms
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Thanks for letting us know about this. I have never had any speed or access issues with DaemonForums, but we should fix this problem that others are having.

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Surely Im far from a rich guy but I dont mind donating some money for better bandwidth, disk space or speed
We do not need money. We need ideas. Have any server suggestions that you think would work great?

Also, we are working on using PHP 5 and MySQL 5 rather than their more outdated versions, and that should make some speed boosts.

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Oh yeah and I think the forum colors are kinda...dull! But that's only a superficial issue
Working on it. Sorry.
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We do not need money. We need ideas. Have any server suggestions that you think would work great?
What's the server running now? What sort of connection/OS/webserver/etc?
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It's most likely a problem with your location on the 'Net, and the route your packets take.
Maybe, but then why do I only have it for this site? :/ I live in Eastern Europe and successfully access sites from around the world.
Don't get me wrong. I love the concept, just giving constructive feedback!
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Don't get me wrong. I love the concept, just giving constructive feedback!
We entirely understand. We are glad people are brining this to our attention, because most of the moderators have not been seeing this issue first hand.

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What's the server running now? What sort of connection/OS/webserver/etc?
Apache on Linux. It would be great if we could get onto a *BSD server, considering that this is a BSD-oriented site.
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Don't worry, OpenBSD runs on Solaris, or at least it used to (goes to check their faq).
Yup, seems it still does.
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Don't worry, OpenBSD runs on Solaris, or at least it used to (goes to check their faq).
Yup, seems it still does.
Isn't Solaris technically a BSD? (Even if an evil cousin?).

Anyway, OpenBSD.org appears to be running.. OpenBSD, I believe only a few mirrors may be evil doers.
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No, some SunOS versions were based on 4BSD, but Solaris is based on SystemV.
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Anyway, OpenBSD.org appears to be running.. OpenBSD, I believe only a few mirrors may be evil doers.
While technically you are correct (see Netcraft's take at the following),

http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_rep...st=openbsd.org

I believe scottro is referring to the fact that OpenBSD's Website does run on Solaris which is further explained in Section 8.18 of the official FAQ:

http://openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html#wwwsolaris

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Hey, if I would eat having to be hosted off a Windows server let along Solaris machines for the space and bandwidth involved at the University of Alberta ;-)
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As people hopefully realize from my comments in the Linux thread, that wasn't a putdown of OBSD. I highly agree with the way they phrase their answer in the FAQ.

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Although none of the developers think it is particularly relevant, this question comes up frequently enough in the mailing lists that it is answered here.
Which I tend to take as a diplomatic way of saying, Sheesh, people, get a life.
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