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Old 9th July 2012
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Default new openbsd user can't connect to adsl

Hello,


I'm coming from Linux , centos.

After getting disappointed of Linux I have installed openbsd.


The first mission after install is to connect openbsd to the internet to get some things working.


But, after hours of reading and trying I can't do it.


With Linux I do adsl-setup adsl-start.


There is no documentation and no tutorial for openbsd .


It is a siemens modem C2-010 not configured as a router.


I tried many configs form the internet


but it seems that nothing works .


Is there a general tutorial for this on the net ?




Thanks.
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With Linux I do adsl-setup adsl-start.

It is a siemens modem C2-010 not configured as a router.
Welcome!

Please post the entire output of dmesg(8) so we can see what the kernel is identifying. Collateral information about the system (which may be illuminating...) will also be revealed in this output.
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There is no documentation and no tutorial for openbsd .
The single best source of current information about OpenBSD can be found in the project's official FAQ:

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/index.html

Until we see what the kernel sees in the hardware, saying anything else may be premature.
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The single best source of current information about OpenBSD can be found in the project's official FAQ.
I could not agree more.
  • The FAQ is the closest thing you will find to an official "How To" on any subject.
  • The man pages are the definitive documentation on the OS. However, they are not tutorials.
  • Another excellent source of tutorial information is the OpenBSD Journal -- articles published there undergo editorial review, and were accurate at the time of publication.
  • The mailing lists and their archives are an excellent source of information; participation by (some of the) developers and the Project Director may be considered semi-official or official, respectively. However, posts by us users may contain misinformation, so you must consider what you read carefully.
Unofficial "How To" sources of information that you discover via Internet searches are often out of date, incomplete, or incorrect, and are frowned upon as sources of information. That includes this site; please consider any information you receive here as unofficial and possibly incorrect. Anything you read from me, especially.
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I neglected to mention that in this case FAQ Section 6 - (Networking) should be very helpful, assuming your network interface hardware is recognized by the OS kernel. That is a necessary first step, and one key reason why ocicat recommended posting your dmesg here.

(It gives us key information about the OS kernel, as well as all of your hardware.)
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Default I changed the moden to router

Hi

Thanks for the replies.

I changed the modem to router so it is easy now.
even this wasn't so easy.

I have spent many hours trying to connect via dialer .


I need to install X11 and gnome.

Manuals and faq didn't help at all to me.

Also with freebsd can't connect to internet.


Absolute openbsd tall about dialup , no use.


Thanks anyway.
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I need to install X11 and gnome.

Manuals and faq didn't help at all to me.
With respect to your X11 questions:
  • Depending upon how the following question was answered during installation (covered in Section 4.5.2 of the FAQ...), X may already be installed:
    Code:
    Do you expect to run the X Window System? [yes] _
  • If X11 is installed, startx will start X with the default fvwm(1) window manager.
  • If X was not installed during installation, the X filesets can be installed after the fact. See Section 4.11 of the FAQ for details.
  • All filesets are listed in Section 4.5.4 of the FAQ. The filesets specific to X begin with 'x'. Assuming you have installed OpenBSD 5.1, these are:
    • xbase51.tgz
    • xetc51.tgz
    • xshare51.tgz
    • xfont51.tgz
    • xserv51.tgz
If you want to install Gnome,
  • Gnome is available in OpenBSD's package system. Familiarizing yourself with the information found in Section 15 is a must.
  • The gnome-session package fundamentally needs to be installed. Without the dmesg(8) information requested earlier, I will not be able to give you more precise version numbers.
Yes, it will take time to become oriented with OpenBSD's documentation, especially as a newcomer.
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Default Thanks again for the reply

The problem is that I can only use lynx for surfing.

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If X11 is installed, startx will start X with the default fvwm(1) window manager.
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I did mark the "YES" during install.

How can I fix that and let gnome to go up and not fvwm?

I have searched through all the /etc/rc files but found nothing.
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Please, post a dmesg, as has been requested.

What happens when you use the "startx" command? If anything happens at all, a log is stored in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, which you should post here also.
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Oops, you get fvwm. X is working.

You need to create a .xinitrc file in your home directory, and it should have one line containing "exec gnome-session". If you have installed the gnome-session package, gnome should launch instead of fvwm on startx.
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Code:
OpenBSD 5.1 (GENERIC.MP) #188: Sun Feb 12 09:55:11 MST 2012
    deraadt@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sy...ile/GENERIC.MP
cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 3 GHz
cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,NXE,LONG,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,CNXT-ID,CX16,xTPR
real mem  = 1600217088 (1526MB)
avail mem = 1563922432 (1491MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 02/20/06, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xffe90, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0450 (73 entries)
bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version "A06" date 02/20/2006
bios0: Dell Inc. OptiPlex GX520
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT APIC BOOT ASF! MCFG HPET SSDT SSDT SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices VBTN(S4) PCI0(S5) PCI4(S5) PCI2(S5) PCI3(S5) PCI1(S5) PCI5(S5) PCI6(S5) MOU_(S3) USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB3(S3)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 199MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 3 GHz
cpu1: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,NXE,LONG,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,CNXT-ID,CX16,xTPR
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 8 pa 0xfec00000, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 8
acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xf0000000, bus 0-255
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 4 (PCI4)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (PCI2)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (PCI3)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 1 (PCI1)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (PCI5)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (PCI6)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: FVS, 3000, 2800 MHz
acpicpu1 at acpi0: FVS, 3000, 2800 MHz
acpibtn0 at acpi0: VBTN
bios0: ROM list: 0xc0000/0xa800! 0xca800/0x1800 0xcc000/0x2000! 0xce000/0x2000
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82945G Host" rev 0x02
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "Intel 82945G PCIE" rev 0x02: apic 8 int 16
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel 82945G Video" rev 0x02
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
intagp0 at vga1
agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xe0000000, size 0x10000000
inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 8 int 16
drm0 at inteldrm0
"Intel 82945G Video" rev 0x02 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 "Intel 82801GB PCIE" rev 0x01: apic 8 int 16
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
bge0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Broadcom BCM5751" rev 0x01, BCM5750 A1 (0x4001): apic 8 int 16, address 00:13:72:7c:94:4f
brgphy0 at bge0 phy 1: BCM5750 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0
ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 "Intel 82801GB PCIE" rev 0x01: apic 8 int 17
pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x01: apic 8 int 21
uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x01: apic 8 int 22
uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x01: apic 8 int 18
uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x01: apic 8 int 23
ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 "Intel 82801GB USB" rev 0x01: apic 8 int 21
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 "Intel 82801BA Hub-to-PCI" rev 0xe1
pci4 at ppb3 bus 4
fxp0 at pci4 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 8255x" rev 0x0c, i82550: apic 8 int 16, address 00:02:b3:22:a8:46
inphy0 at fxp0 phy 1: i82555 10/100 PHY, rev. 4
auich0 at pci0 dev 30 function 2 "Intel 82801GB AC97" rev 0x01: apic 8 int 23, ICH7 AC97
ac97: codec id 0x41445374 (Analog Devices AD1981B)
ac97: codec features headphone, 20 bit DAC, No 3D Stereo
audio0 at auich0
ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Intel 82801GB LPC" rev 0x01: PM disabled
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 "Intel 82801GB IDE" rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: <HL-DT-ST, DVD-RAM GH22NP20, 2.00> ATAPI 5/cdrom removable
cd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4
pciide0: channel 1 ignored (disabled)
pciide1 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 "Intel 82801GB SATA" rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 configured to native-PCI, channel 1 configured to native-PCI
pciide1: using apic 8 int 20 for native-PCI interrupt
wd0 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 1: <WDC WD800JD-75MSA1>
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 76293MB, 156250000 sectors
wd0(pciide1:0:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 6
ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 "Intel 82801GB SMBus" rev 0x01: SMI
iic0 at ichiic0
spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 512MB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-5300CL5
spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x52: 1GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-4200CL5
usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
uhub3 at usb3 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb4 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0
uhub4 at usb4 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
isa0 at ichpcib0
isadma0 at isa0
com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
com1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
spkr0 at pcppi0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support
uhidev0 at uhub2 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0 "LITEON Technology USB Multimedia Keyboard" rev 1.10/1.01 addr 2
uhidev0: iclass 3/1
ukbd0 at uhidev0: 8 modifier keys, 6 key codes
wskbd1 at ukbd0 mux 1
wskbd1: connecting to wsdisplay0
uhidev1 at uhub3 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0 "vendor 0x1bcf USB Optical Mouse" rev 2.00/0.10 addr 2
uhidev1: iclass 3/1, 2 report ids
ums0 at uhidev1 reportid 1: 3 buttons, Z dir
wsmouse0 at ums0 mux 0
uhid0 at uhidev1 reportid 2: input=1, output=0, feature=0
vscsi0 at root
scsibus1 at vscsi0: 256 targets
softraid0 at root
scsibus2 at softraid0: 256 targets
root on wd0a (971b1056f62026f8.a) swap on wd0b dump on wd0b

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on support
at http://wiki.x.org
for help.


xinit: connection to X server lost
#
# startx.txt
ksh: startx.txt: not found
# startx
xauth: file /root/.serverauth.30384 does not exist


Fatal server error:
Server is already active for display 0
If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
and start again.


Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
at http://wiki.x.org
for help.



XIO: fatal IO error 35 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0"
after 7 requests (7 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
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#




==========================================

How can I prevent from fvwm from start at startup ?







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Default lynx is amazing !!!

I saved the output to text files.
then with lynx login to mail account and send them.


then start again with winxp


can't mount 2 disks , it is dell gx 520.


bios issue.
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Default by the way 5.1 or 4.9

which is better ?
stable ?

5.1


4.9

?


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Code:
OpenBSD 5.1 (GENERIC.MP) #188: Sun Feb 12 09:55:11 MST 2012
    deraadt@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sy...ile/GENERIC.MP
...
Excellent! Thank you. This dmesg is very helpful. We now know you are running 5.1-release on the i386 architecture, and that your Network Interface is an bge(4) Broadcom Gigibit Ethernet device assigned to device bge0. It is very hard to tell from what has been posted, but it appears that you may have solved your network issues on your own.
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Code:
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Fatal server error:
Server is already active for display 0
        ...
...How can I prevent from fvwm from start at startup ?
It appears you have XDM configured for login via X, rather than starting X after logging in to the console. That's fine -- you just need to have an .xsession file, instead of the .xinitrc file. You can have two names for the same file, using the ln(1) command to create a hard link:
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$ cd
$ ln .xinitrc .xsession
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I saved the output to text files.
then with lynx login to mail account and send them.
Good job!
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can't mount 2 disks , it is dell gx 520.
I don't understand what you are trying to say, here. Your dmesg shows a single IDE/PATA drive, assigned to device wd0. Are you referring to mounting of its partitions, or, are you referring to attaching USB drives such as memory sticks?
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bios issue.
I don't understand.
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which is better ?
stable ?

5.1


4.9

?


Thanks.
Only the most recent release and its prior release are supported. That is currently 5.1 and 5.0. More details on the development cycle, release numbers, and the various "flavors" of OpenBSD including -stable can be found in FAQ 5.1. Spending time with the FAQ will really help. Really.

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Hi Barti !
Your adsl issue reminded me of my similar old woes with ueagle driver for Sagem Fast 800 (thanks Damien Bergamini !) .. then , a cheap router made my OpenBSD journey pleasurable !
I use xinit -instead of startx- to start a window manager & I always found it good to not autostart window managers nor use xdm. First login to console mode then decide.Sometimes you just love being CLI.I have the habit to use fvwm.The xinitrc is located in /etc/X11/xinit/ .. you can edit it to fit your needs .. if you want to use kde you simply do a :
xinit /usr/local/bin/startkde
for gnome :
xinit /usr/local/bin/gnome-session
(but I dropped it as the new 3 version is too heavy to use on my acer aspire )
for enlightenment :
xinit /usr/local/bin/e16
(I made aliases for these++ in my .profile )
You can now stick to 5.1 stable .. later on you may decide to taste current.. -stable is a peaceful lake/river whereas -current is an outrageous stormy ocean .. :-) .. keep going !
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Default OpenBSD is the one!

Linux becomes worst then windows every day.
It reminds me also 1998 when linux was good (redhat 4.2) .



I think freebsd will also get more like linux .

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I don't yet understand, How to make the system go up only to text mode?

No window manager.

What file to edit? what to write in it?


------------------------

Do you think freebsd is better to use then openbsd?
I now know that security rocks in openbsd.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenBSD_security_features


Freebsd really much better in performance ?

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I wanted to mount the windows disk but can't start the computer with 2 disks together.
DELL gx520 bios issue.
never mind .



Thanks.

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Freebsd really much better in performance ?
barti, discussion is disjointed enough without adding unrelated topics. Your initial message primarily asked about X & Gnome. Let's limit discussion in this thread to those two topics. If you want to discuss FreeBSD, start a new thread.
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It is currently unclear as to the state of your system. When you boot, does the system boot into text mode, or do you go directly into X?
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It goes directly into X.

Not text mode.
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I wanted to mount the windows disk but can't start the computer with 2 disks together.
DELL gx520 bios issue.
never mind .
barti, I can only assume that you have two disks in your system, & you want to mount the Windows NTFS in a running OpenBSD environment. In this case, you will need to look at mount_ntfs(8). Be aware (as is stated in the BUGS section of the manpage...):
Code:
Only read support is enabled.
If you wish to discuss this further, start a new thread. The initial message in this thread asked about X & Gnome. We are limiting discussion to only these topics in this thread.
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ok

How then to go directly into text mode?
I will start to read the manuals and faq , but this will take some time.




Thanks.

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