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Hi,

I'm quite new to NetBSD though I am familiar with FreeBSD and OpenBSD; I am having a strange issue on my Sun SPARC box with no graphics card.

I followed the NetBSD documents:

http://www.netbsd.org/docs/updating.html

http://www.netbsd.org/docs/pkgsrc/getting.html#uptodate

http://wiki.netbsd.org/pkgsrc/how_to_upgrade_packages/

http://www.netbsd.org/docs/pkgsrc/us...l#pkg_versions


In order to update the packages that I built from pkgsrc, I went to /usr/pkgsrc

then ran:

Code:
make update
as described in the documentation.


I started the whole process by first upgrading from version 6.0 to 6.0.1 again by using the documentation and that went fine; then updated the pkgsrc tree via CVS and now the packages.


I'm wondering if I did something wrong or if there was a better way to update by using a tool similar to portupgrade or portmaster etc....


It looks like currently there are a bunch of things which are being installed which were not there before either?


Does anyone have any idea why this is happening?


The box should basically be used as a bare bones server without any graphical interfaces and doesn't need them installed as I only run:

ntp
snmp
cacti
ntop
bind

on the system.


Thanks in advance for any help!
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RE: new stuff

What new things are there? Maybe some new dependencies for old packages?


Nowadays, I just use pkgin to install, manage and update binary packages, I rarely use source packages.
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RE: new stuff

What new things are there? Maybe some new dependencies for old packages?
The whole Gnome2 desktop for example.... the system's just installed gnome-base and now is doing Nautilus.

I never had Gnome installed previously??


I always thought that using "source packages" was the best as these were "ports" but I maybe confusing between Free/OpenBSD though. Since with "ports" one can configure directly to what one needs in terms of package support etc.... rather then a pre-built binary which has 'everything' in it.
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The whole Gnome2 desktop for example.... the system's just installed gnome-base and now is doing Nautilus.

I never had Gnome installed previously??
Sounds like NetBSD changed some dependencies recently, perhaps.


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I always thought that using "source packages" was the best as these were "ports" but I maybe confusing between Free/OpenBSD though. Since with "ports" one can configure directly to what one needs in terms of package support etc.... rather then a pre-built binary which has 'everything' in it.
On OpenBSD (I can't comment on FreeBSD) the only distinction between ports and packages is that ports are used to build packages and then the package is installed. So the real distinction is "OpenBSD project" packages, or "locally built" packages built from a local copy of ports.

Whether you build by port and install the resulting package or install the package directly, there's no real difference unless you tweak the port's Makefile for custom options.
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Yeah that probably sounds like it!

Thanks for the assistance in the meantime :-)
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The whole Gnome2 desktop for example.... the system's just installed gnome-base and now is doing Nautilus.

I never had Gnome installed previously??
I have no idea on this one... maybe post a question on one of the NBSD mailing lists?

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I always thought that using "source packages" was the best as these were "ports" but I maybe confusing between Free/OpenBSD though. Since with "ports" one can configure directly to what one needs in terms of package support etc.... rather then a pre-built binary which has 'everything' in it.
Yes, if one needs to "tweak" the package, or to turn an option "on" (which isn't by default) then one's got to go with source packages. Otherwise, and I agree with OpenBSD-way here, I just use binary packages. Much faster and avoid unneeded compilation.
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Thanks I guess I should do that as now it looks like it's installing KDE3??


Here's a list of Gnome stuff that just got installed:

Code:
gnome-menus-2.30.5nb4 Implementation of the desktop menu specification for GNOME
py27-gnome-menus-2.30.5nb4 Python bindings for gnome-menus
gnome-vfs-2.24.4nb14 GNOME Virtual File System (v2)
gnome-themes-2.32.1nb8 Collection of themes and icons for GNOME 2
libgnome-keyring-3.4.1nb1 GNOME password and secret manager
gnome-desktop3-3.4.2nb3 GNOME3 desktop-wide documents and libgnome-desktop library
gnome-doc-utils-0.20.10nb1 Documentation utilities for the GNOME project
gnome-desktop-2.32.1nb11 Common GNOME2 desktop files and libgnome-desktop library
libgnomekbd-2.32.0nb9 Gnome keyboard configuration library
gnome-icon-theme-2.30.3nb12 Theme consisting of a set of icons for GNOME
policykit-gnome-0.9.2nb15 GNOME dialogs for PolicyKit
gnome-settings-daemon-2.32.1nb14 GNOME settings daemon
gnome-terminal-2.32.1nb10 Xterm like terminal program for GNOME 2
libgnome-2.32.1nb11 Core GNOME2 library (non-graphical)
libgnomeprint-2.18.8nb10 Library for the GNOME2 Printing Architecture
gnome-media-2.28.5nb16 Set of audio/multimedia applications for GNOME2
gnome-speech-0.4.25nb6 GNOME 2 text-to-speech API

Ok I guess it's on to the NetBSD SPARC list now.....


If I find out anything I'll post back here as it might help someone in the future.
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