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Default Ibus has no Chinese input methods.

Linux user attempting to use BSD, so please forgive me if my question is a little ignorant.

I have installed Ibus from Packages, but have a problem.
- There are no Chinese input methods, but everything else is present, including Japanese and Korean.
- OpenBSD only has three Ibus packages: ibus, ibus-anthy and ibus-skk. I know I do not need anthy. I do not know what ssk is, but I installed it anyway after I could not get Ibus to work. There is no ibus-pinyin package, which is distressing, since I am accustoned to using it.
- Chinese founts are installed.
Code:
# ls -d /usr/X11R6/share/X11/locale/zh*
/usr/X11R6/share/X11/locale/zh_CN
/usr/X11R6/share/X11/locale/zh_CN.UTF-8
/usr/X11R6/share/X11/locale/zh_CN.gb18030
/usr/X11R6/share/X11/locale/zh_CN.gbk
/usr/X11R6/share/X11/locale/zh_HK.UTF-8
/usr/X11R6/share/X11/locale/zh_HK.big5
/usr/X11R6/share/X11/locale/zh_HK.big5hkscs
/usr/X11R6/share/X11/locale/zh_TW
/usr/X11R6/share/X11/locale/zh_TW.UTF-8
/usr/X11R6/share/X11/locale/zh_TW.big5
Perhaps I should say they are available. If they need to be "activated" before being usable, I shall find out as I read more of the manual. This may be the case, since Chinese characters in files are not currently being displayed. However, that issue should have no bearing on Ibus' input methods.
- At the bottom of the OpenBSD package list are several fount packages and what appear to be input packages. However, since I do not know the specifics of those packages and because founts are already installed, I am leerly of blindly installing more packages.
- The Ibus man page has nothing helpful.

What puzzles me is that Japanese and Korean input methods are available, but not Chinese. The versions of Ibus on the Linux systems I have used had no input methods available, until they were installed separately. The OpenBSD version comes with a plethora of input methods, but not the (for me) useful ones. Any ideas before I start randomly installing what appear to be various Chinese input methods. And yes, links to documentation are most welcome. I am not afraid to RTFM, if I can find it.
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Hello, and welcome!

The ibus ports (which are available as installable packages) are:

ibus: the intelligent input bus framework
ibus-anthy: Japanese input engine
ibus-skk: Japanese skk input engine

All three of these are mantained by Federico G. Schwindt <fgsch () openbsd ! org>. You may reach out to him via Email, to ask if Chinese input methods for ibus are planned or in progress.

The Chewing inputmethod is available in both the scim and uim frameworks, as can be seen from this conveninet list of the OpenBSD inputmethods branch of the ports tree. Kevin Lo <kevlo () openbsd ! org> is the maintainer of these two ports.

I don't use any of these inputmethods, frameworks, or applications, or languages.... so I do not have any specific advice other than to contact Federico and Kevin for their guidance. I'm sure they would be happy to help.
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Thanks for the link. That is the kind of thing I have been looking for.
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I shall do that, but I find it odd that there would not be support for Chinese when there is for Japanese and Korean. There are actually more Chinese input methods than Japanese. SCIM especially has many more, but I would prefer to use Ibus if possible, because it is much better than SCIM. Let's see what Federico has to say.
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It probably has to do with the individual maintainer's interests. (I have no idea how much more work it is to add the other libraries).
Scim and uim are considered very dated, I don't know how well they work these days.

I should add that these days, I'm not using OpenBSD, and only have use for Japanese input. In the days when I did use OpenBSD, there was no Asian input available.
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It just seems strange to put in the effort to maintain everything from Japanese to Serbo-Croatian, but not Chinese. And Ibus is not a new application. It has replaced SCIM in most places, because it is better, and as far as I know, SCIM is either no longer maintained upstream or maintenance level is very low. Of course, there is the possibility that Chinese is not well supported by OpenBSD. I have not been tinkering with the system long enough to know how nicely it plays with that language. Time will tell.
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Did you happen to hear back from Federico?

Kevin Lo is apparently no longer an active OpenBSD developer, at least according to the font he's chosen for OpenBSD at kevlo.org. If so, then the munged Email address I provided above may not work for him.

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OpenBSD is a small community. With approximately 100 developers at any given time and 9,000 third party ports .. not everything everyone desires may be available, if we depend on the developers alone. The general cultural impetus for the community is for end users to attempt to patch any gaps we discover, if we're capable of doing so. This effort can include porting applications that are not already available.

If you are technically inclined, you may be able to add the SCIM inputmethods you need to your system. If so, you might then be interested in developing ports of them to share with the community at large. If you're interested in pursuing this path, along with FAQ 15 on ports and packages, the FAQ includes both a Porter's Handbook and a Port Testing Guide.
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Did you happen to hear back from Federico?
My e-mail service could not connect and I did not get around to trying again, because I have been side-tracked trying to fix a USB mounting problem. It will be another day or two before I get back to this issue. I am learning as I go, so things are taking a while.

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OpenBSD is a small community. With approximately 100 developers at any given time and 9,000 third party ports .. not everything everyone desires may be available, if we depend on the developers alone.
I realise that and am not complaining at all. Just searching for options. I am hoping OpenBSD can meet the few needs I have, because it is a fantastic system. Eventually I need to get something working for Chinese input, because it is a must for me. If I had to give up OpenBSD because of such an issue, I would probably be dejected enough to cry.

I also tried SCIM, but it did not want to work. Not a surprise. It was not working with Slackware either. It truly is a piece of crap compared to Ibus.

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The opposite actually, but if I can find a way to contribute, I shall.
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