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Old 14th May 2014
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"Collect It All": Glenn Greenwald on NSA Bugging Tech Hardware, Economic Espionage & Spying on U.N.

Nearly a year after he first met Edward Snowden, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Glenn Greenwald continues to unveil new secrets about the National Security Agency and the surveillance state. His new book, "No Place to Hide: Edward Snowden, the NSA, and the U.S. Surveillance State," is being published today. It includes dozens of previously secret NSA documents, including new details on how the NSA routinely intercepts routers, servers and other computer hardware devices being exported from the United States. According to leaked documents published in the book, the NSA then implants backdoor surveillance tools, repackages the devices with a factory seal and sends them on.

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/5/1...n_greenwald_on
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I for one am so sick of hearing the name Edward Snowden and about the "evil" NSA. It would be more worrisome if the NSA was Russian, Chinese, North Korean, or another oppressive country, but it is the USA. The average person has nothing to fear with metadata they're reportedly collecting, or most of these other alleged activities. People should be worrying more about phishing, malware, worms and other criminal activity that isn't happening due to NSA activities. People will be more harmed by clicking on some email with an embedded image than NSA-collected data.
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I disagree. Trust has been destroyed. And your or my opinions about whether or not we believe these are the good guys or the bad guys, or what they have been doing is wrong or right, does not alter this degradation of trust. Damage has been done.

Here is an excerpt from a recent article by Bruce Schneier which appeared in the Boston Review and was later posted on the author's blog:
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In addition to turning the Internet into a worldwide surveillance platform, the NSA has surreptitiously weakened the products, protocols, and standards we all use to protect ourselves. By doing so, it has destroyed the trust that underlies the Internet. We need that trust back.

Trust is inherently social. It is personal, relative, situational, and fluid. It is not uniquely human, but it is the underpinning of everything we have accomplished as a species. We trust other people, but we also trust organizations and processes. The psychology is complex, but when we trust a technology, we basically believe that it will work as intended.

This is how we technologists trusted the security of the Internet. We didn't have any illusions that the Internet was secure, or that governments, criminals, hackers, and others couldn't break into systems and networks if they were sufficiently skilled and motivated. We didn't trust that the programmers were perfect, that the code was bug-free, or even that our crypto math was unbreakable. We knew that Internet security was an arms race, and the attackers had most of the advantages.

What we trusted was that the technologies would stand or fall on their own merits.

We now know that trust was misplaced. Through cooperation, bribery, threats, and compulsion, the NSA -- and the United Kingdom's GCHQ -- forced companies to weaken the security of their products and services, then lie about it to their customers.

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It would be more worrisome if the NSA was Russian, Chinese, North Korean, or another oppressive country, but it is the USA. The average person has nothing to fear with metadata they're reportedly collecting, or most of these other alleged activities.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...p-in-his-face/
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I for one am so sick of hearing the name Edward Snowden and about the "evil" NSA. It would be more worrisome if the NSA was Russian, Chinese, North Korean, or another oppressive country, but it is the USA. The average person has nothing to fear with metadata they're reportedly collecting, or most of these other alleged activities
I also disagree about trusting NSA.

I'm showing my age but the Watergate scandal shows how the CIA, FBI and IRS were subverted. Those who do not learn from history often repeat that history.
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I for one am so sick of hearing the name Edward Snowden and about the "evil" NSA. It would be more worrisome if the NSA was Russian, Chinese, North Korean, or another oppressive country, but it is the USA. The average person has nothing to fear with metadata they're reportedly collecting, or most of these other alleged activities. People should be worrying more about phishing, malware, worms and other criminal activity that isn't happening due to NSA activities. People will be more harmed by clicking on some email with an embedded image than NSA-collected data.
This just sounds like a variation on the, "if you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear," argument combined with an exceptionally rosy picture of what kind of country the U.S. is and what its history has been re. oppressing dissidents or various other ethnic or political groups.
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Glenn Greenwald was on Charlie Rose last night (I don't have a link), but worth watching for those interested.
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http://betaboston.com/news/2014/05/0...ance-with-tor/

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Andrew Lewman, the Tor Project’s executive director, understands better than most the challenges facing advocates and social workers in domestic violence prevention roles. Lewman works directly with abuse victims whose partners are in law enforcement or intelligence professions.

“You have a whole separate set of issues,” he said.

The world Lewman works in looks especially grim. He sees abusers posting tips and tricks to online forums, telling others how to achieve masterful levels of surveillance and control.


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